Election Changes


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I just found this part of the Forum. I like it.

I just heard some news I thought I'd share. There's way too much argueing and devisiveness in the political arena lately, especially leading up to the election next Tuesday. There is a simple solution which will be instituted immediately, to save the country.

All Republicans will vote on Tuesday, November 7th.

Decomcrats can all vote on Wednesday, November 8th. :biggrin:

Problem solved. :wink:


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I think losing the election may be the best thing that's happened to the Republicans in the last decade. With any luck it will force them to rethink where they have come from, and where they want to go in the future. The Republicans used to stand for smaller government and fiscal responsibility; that was a long time ago. Todays neo-con's, who I think are anything but conservative, have moved the party in the opposite direction. It's time the moderate conservatives reclaim the Republican party and give us independents a broader choice come the next election.


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I've never liked the term neo-con. It's used by "true" Conservatives to slam anyone who doesn't agree with them, and by liberals to slam anyone to the right of Pohl Pot.

That said, there is a definite difference between the terms "Conservative" and "Republican" these days. I agree that the GOP needs to turn back NOW to being the CONSERVATIVE party. Every time it does that, it wins BIG.

Sadly, however, I believe that some social programs are with us forever. We'll never be rid of Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, which suck more out of the budget than all other expenditures combined.

Oh, well. We'll see. :confused:


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Although I would be happier if conservatives had held both houses I am somewhat intrigued as to what the next three (yes three) years are going to bring. I add the third year for the presidential election because that is going to be more interesting than the 2004 election in my eyes.

I am quite interested to see what will happen over the next two years in the congress and how it will effect me as a person on active duty. I have a feeling I will still end up in the sandbox in the next few years, but right now I consider that better than the jungles of North Korea or the sand in Iran. I am interested in how the two parties will work together to solve (or not solve) issues that are important to everyone in the country.

I did hear a good point made on the radio today, the commentator said that this wasn't a rebelion against the republicans, but rather a rebelion against the government and those in power. His thought was that it was the same thing that happened when the republicans took over the congress in the early 90's and seems to happen about every 12-14 years. Unfortunately I'm not as articulate as the commentator so I'm not sure that this is coming across as he meant it to, but hopefully it did.


This has, to say the least, been a very interesting week. I feel that the election results have been a pure and simple denouncement by the American people of Bush's policy in Iraq. Ironically, this has brought in a new Congress, which, with the exception of budget approval, has very little voice in war policy.

What can the Republicans learn from this? Very little, I think. It was the neo-conservative far right who promoted the Iraqi invasion and the spread of democracy. It is also the very conservative religious right, which Reagan so ingeniously captured to gain election, that continue to be a thorn in the forming of traditional Republican policy. The Republicans have now placed themselves in a position where any policy movement to the left to where it has traditionally been, will result in any one of a number of Falwell/Robertsons who will jump in and run as independents and dilute the Republican vote. It will be interesting to see how McCain, a traditional Republican, deals with this.

I think one of the more interesting developments was Bob Gates selection as SecDef and the rumor that Rumsfield was on his way out before the General/Admiral uprising but Bush backed off, not wanting to appear that he was catering to the uprising. Gates is a true Republican conservative in relation to foreign policy and has been openly critical of both the invasion and the current handling of the war. This is going to be fun to watch because I am sure that he wants the victory with dignity that we all want and will have to go against Bush doctrine to pull it off.

But, to me, the most interesting development of all is VP Cheney's total absence in all of this. I don't think I have read one quote or seen him mentioned at all. Is he being hidden and pushed aside or is he hiding somewhere with his tail between his legs?
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USNA69 said:
But, to me, the most interesting development of all is VP Cheney's total absence in all of this. I don't think I have read one quote or seen him mentioned at all. Is he being hidden and pushed aside or is he hiding somewhere with his tail between his legs?
I was wondering this myself - when the going gets tough the tough go hunting?


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I saw he was in town to shake hands with Reid today.

But the did warn people in SD that he was hunting on election day.

On another note the closed the HOVs so the could run people up and back to Quantico, the Marine Museum opening ceremony. Bush and gang were down there for the opening and Marine Corp Birthday. Traffic was he$$ tonight.