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tripleseven

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Recruited candidate received nomination and caught cheating at high school. Not first time. Allowed to retake with max grade 50. Students and Admin aware. Should it be reported to academy admissions?
 
Max grade 50? That’s tough.

My district has set the lowest grade as 50. Students can literally do nothing and get a 50. Still an F but a 50 gives them a chance to recover. All grades lower than 50 must be changed and that is retroactive to the first day of school.

I agree with @A1Janitor. Who and why would they report it?

How did you get caught cheating by the way?
 
Are there guidelines for school administrators regarding cheating after letter of recommendation is written? My concern is how an appointment would appear to other students if one is caught cheating. Especially to other students who have applied for an appointment.
 
Wowzers. I would think this would also flush out in required teacher/admin evaluations? I’m not familiar with the USMA app, but would think that something like this would be discovered during the application piece from the school side?

Posted at the same time as OP. So you are saying this person has already been appointed? Or completed the application? So LOR’s have already been submitted, and all cheating has occurred after they were written?
 
tripleseven said:
Are there guidelines for school administrators regarding cheating after letter of recommendation is written? My concern is how an appointment would appear to other students if one is caught cheating. Especially to other students who have applied for an appointment.
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Are you a competing mid or related to one?
 
I’ve heard the school administration was going to report it but not sure if there were guidelines that they had to.
 
Always do YOUR best. You have to play through the "bad calls" and other people's stupid or malicious behavior. You will always be better for the growth you have. Keep working YOUR plan. You will find that there are people who cheat and appear to succeed. Stay upright, stay motivated. You will always be better for it. Deal with the challenging situations with grace and courtesy.
 
This is an interesting question/event. It sounds Like school admin has the ball in their court. Are they required to report it? Not sure. Are they ethically bound to? Imo yes. If it’s risen to the level that it has (I’m assuming some discipline issue here has/will occurred). Probably from one admissions counselor to another. Troubling that it’s occurred more than once.

But your role in this, imo, is to stay your own course. Let it work out through proper channels.
 
Several years ago, there was a local recruited athlete who had an appointment to one of the academies. Candidate was involved with a "senior prank" that turned into official charges for vandalism of school property. He was part of this group of students who were not allowed to walk at graduation. He was also known by many at the school to smoke pot "numerous times." Candidate cleaned up his act and made it through the academy and is now proudly serving in the service.
 
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Several years ago, there was a local recruited athlete who had an appointment to one of the academies. Candidate was involved with a "senior prank" that turned into official charges for vandalism of school property. He was part of this group of students who were not allowed to walk at graduation. He was also known by many at the school to smoke pot "numerous times." Candidate cleaned up his act and make it through the academy and is now proudly serving in the service.
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Good for him.

I suspect an academy does a very good job with youthful indiscretions.
 
USMAROTCFamily said:
Several years ago, there was a local recruited athlete who had an appointment to one of the academies. Candidate was involved with a "senior prank" that turned into official charges for vandalism of school property. He was part of this group of students who were not allowed to walk at graduation. He was also known by many at the school to smoke pot "numerous times." Candidate cleaned up his act and made it through the academy and is now proudly serving in the service.
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I don't know if the school ever reported the incident to the Academy. There were some locals who said they felt like they wanted to "anonymously report" it to the academy indicating that the academy should know about the character of this kid and didn't think he was deserving of the spot at the academy. I never heard if they ever did. They could have and the coach of the academy team could have said, he didn't care and "kids will be kids" and that he would shape him up. Bottom line, who should be the judge in these cases? Should the school report? Should the candidate report? Will the academy overlook some things and not others until after they are admitted? Can these kids learn from their mistakes or are they really a bad seed at their core who should not be given a second chance? I don't have answers to any of these questions, but it is an interesting topic, for sure.
 
My thoughts were coming from the standpoint of whether the school had attested to the character and lack of discipline issues with this student through their endorsement of him. Their piece of the application process. Via their signing off on their school record, and their evaluations. I would think a SA would inquire if there are any discipline issues. In essences a school is saying saying “we want him/her to represent our school”. At the very least, they would disclose discipline that’s formally in the students school record file.

Again, though, it’s between them. Not another candidate and admissions.
 
It’s also a concern of the teacher recommender whose signature is on the letter. I write 12-20 recommendation letters a year for admissions and scholarships. None are for the academies although I did one a few years ago for AFROTC Nursing and she got in. I’m an electives teacher and have found a niche in recommending and mentoring minority students and recent immigrants who have trouble getting core subject teachers to vouche for them.

Would I rat them out to an accepting university if I knew one had cheated? I don’t know. In over 13 years and hundreds of recommendations I have never had this come up. Much of that has to do with the character of the students I agree to write a recommendation for. I don’t just hand them out willey-nilley.
 
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