Government Cuts

Discussion in 'Coast Guard Academy - USCGA' started by ecmcb5, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. ecmcb5

    ecmcb5 Parent

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    A friend of mine met a current USCGA cadet yesterday. She engaged him into conversation knowing that my DD had applied. He said that the Academy is highly competitive, which we knew, and that they're letting fewer kids in due to government cuts, which we didn't know.
    I haven't heard about any cuts being made. Obviously, we know that the government has shut down which caused concern for applications being processed.
    Can anyone confirm or deny this claim? TIA.
     
  2. ecmcb5

    ecmcb5 Parent

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    So I just told my DD about this and she confirmed it. She said that President Trump has made cuts to the Coast Guard since taking office.
    Would love some feedback.
     
  3. Alaskan

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    I’ve heard Trumps promise to build billion dollar ice breakers in the next few years. Doesn’t sound like cuts. There were talk of cuts during budget negotiations that the media ran wild with. President Trump is one part of budget negotiations. The house must rule on money spent.
     
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  4. rjb

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    AuxNoob CGA Admissions Partner 5-Year Member

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    My son graduated in 2017. His class started with 256. That was the smallest class size in many years. This year and last year they are looking for classes of ~300. This is based on the CG's projections of how many ensigns they will need in the future. With new cutters coming on line and on the drawing board, there will not likely be cuts in USCGA class sizes soon (that is my personal assessment, not in any way official, not to be used for public consumption, yada yada yada). That said, OCS classes can make up differences between USCGA output and need on a "relatively" quick basis.
     
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  6. KP Eng

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    Let me take this opportunity to introduce you to the term scuttlebutt (see link below). If your DD attends the Academy and goes on to serve it will be a regular part of life. There will be an endless supply of stories like this corroborated by a friend of a guy who your other friend knows from a cutter he served on in Miami, or was is Michigan?? My best advice to anyone who will listen is don't get wrapped up in it and focus on the tasks in front of you that you can control.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttlebutt
     
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  7. davejean90

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    From what I have heard is that they are increasing the size of the academy to get it to ~1200 cadets, therefore future class sizes have been bigger.
     
  8. ecmcb5

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    Thank you KP Eng for your candor. Yes, I realize that it's like a game of telephone. Our DD is waiting to hear and it seems like all I have time for is stalking this forum for answers to questions I have no control of!!!I was wondering, not sure why, if incoming classes would be smaller due to budget cuts. Again, not sure why, since she hasn't been given an appointment as of yet. Just chalk it up to a mom who is trying to read between every line that is written or spoken!
     
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  9. ilguy

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    My son and I attended an official visit as a recruited athlete in November '17. We were told by the head of USCGA recruiting that they were indeed trying to increase the size of incoming classes to get near 1000 enrolled.
     
  10. ilguy

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    Captain McKenna and also a civillian guy with round glasses whose name I can't recall were the speakers. You are correct, about no "official visits" per the NCAA definition, but in comparison, the only real difference was that his flights and expenses for the overnight visit were not paid for....
     
  11. Boatdad

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    I can confirm the incoming class is roughly 264 including CGAS which is smaller than previous class sizes of the past 2 years thus it will be much more competitive this year
     
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  12. Saguaroman

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    Dang, that sucks it's that low this year. Is that how many appointments are being offered or is that how many are expected to be accepted?
     
  13. Korab

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    This is about what we were told - incoming class would be approximately 270 - meaning that is how many would accept and show up on Day 1.
     
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  14. Mackinaw

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    Not sure where you got your information from but my DS is a current scholar at NAPS and he was told otherwise. He told me yesterday that he was told 230 Apointments were given out in early action and roughly 45% were girls. That doesn't include the regular admission or the estimated 60ish incoming Scholars.
     
  15. Korab

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    Unfortunately, our kids aren't often reliable sources of information. According to the USCGA admissions department, here are the stats for Class of 2022 from early admission action decisions:

    Early Action for the Class of 2022 was completed yesterday and the final group of decision letters was posted last night. For those who may not be familiar with our selection process, we conduct a thorough holistic review of every record and it's not unusual for up to six faculty and/or Admissions staff members to have read an application before a final decision is made by our Director of Admissions. We release decisions as soon as they're finalized, but the process always takes two or three weeks and could take a month or longer if a record needs to be reviewed for our CGAS (Prep School) Program after it has initially been reviewed for direct appointment. Congratulations to those receiving appointments and I would encourage anyone who did not to contact their Admissions Officer in April/May for guidance on reapplying to the Class of 2023 should they remain interested in attending the Coast Guard Academy.
    These Early Action statistics have been approved for release and we're looking forward to bringing in another great class!

    834 Applicants
    189 Appointments
    39 CGAS Appointments

    Of the 189 appointments to the Class of 2022...

    49% AIM Graduates
    Average ACT Scores: 32 E 31 M 8 W
    Average SAT Scores: 675 ERW 710 M 6 W (from Essay)
    Average HS Rank: 13% (includes reported and calculated HSRs)
    Average GPA: 3.83 (unweighted GPAs converted to a 4.00 scale)
    Average PFE Score: 222

    43 U.S. states plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico are represented in addition to U.S. citizens living in Ecuador and Jordan

    Your son's number is close - the total number of appointments offered was 228 - but 39 of them were to the CGAS. Please note that the number of kids offered a commission does not equal the number who will take the oath on Day 1. There will be kids who decline their offer, kids who can't get medically approved, kids who fail drug test, kids who get injured, etc., etc. Admissions know what their percentage yield will be, so offer the number of appointments that will give them their desired number.
     
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    So they have concluded all of regular action?
     
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    i think those stats are for EA - RA should still be in early to mid process
     
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  19. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006 10-Year Member

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    Class sizes change... up and down up and down....

    Applicant sizes also change.

    In 2010 the Coast Guard was shrinking. They did this through natural attrition, allowing people out of commitments and changing promotion rates. They can also tweak the service size through CGA and OCS class sizes and boot camp class sizes.
     
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  20. Alaskan

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    Excellent example of how everything is politicized, even class size and why you haven’t heard back yet.
     
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