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Hi all,

I’ve spent 4 years at the place I dreamed of going to for years, and my prison break date is just a few weeks away. It’s been quite the journey. I haven’t been on these forums since high school, but I thought randomly that I might swing through and see if I can help anyone out.

I’m happy to answer any and all questions — admissions, life here (academic, athletics, social, COVID era), whatever you got.

For any lurking mids who are looking at my username and trying to guess who I am, no, my name is not hunter.
 
I’m a sophomore and thank you for making this thread! I will be visiting USNA in two months for their stem program so I am curious about your experience.

1). What made you want to attend the Naval Academy instead of the other four (USAFA, West Point, and so on).

2). As a 1/C mid, what do you and your peers do on the weekends. How do you like Navy’s location in Annapolis?

3). All the SA’s are unique in their own ways, so what do you think makes Navy unique compared to the other academies. Why should one consider it as their top-choice?

4). How is the STEM curriculum at Navy and do you get a lot of hands-on experience? Do you like the professors and do you receive a lot of academic assistance when you need help?

5). Do mids get assigned their careers for after graduation or they get to choose what they want to do as an officer? What will you be doing?

6). How is the physical standards at Annapolis and are you currently in any sports?

Thank you in advance and congratulations on finishing out your Naval academy journey to becoming an officer! (Sorry that’s a lot of questions)
 
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How is plebe year, I understand that plebe summer is going to suck, (as it should) but are the antics applied throughout plebe year? Any advice on how to strive during that time? Thank you very much in advance!
 
Do you know anyone doing a med school route through USNA? How competitive does it seem to be? I know that they typically only have 12 slots per year, but I've also heard by the time of interviews, there are not that many mids in the running.
 
I am a college sophomore considering applying next year, how uncommon is it to see people at the academy with several years of college experience before plebe year?
 
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Junior at Navy. If you’re in another commissioning program, why go three years backwards and delay commissioning?
My school doesn't have NROTC, I also should have clarified that I WILL be a junior next year. I am looking at transferring to Ga Tech and doing NROTC there, but as a biochem major, their program would add another 2-3 years on top of what I've done at my current school. With my graduation timeline commissioning through OCS is also a similar time away, so the idea of 4 more years at the academy doesn't really bother me.
 
Junior at Navy. If you’re in another commissioning program, why go three years backwards and delay commissioning?
There's also 4 empty spots from congressional my district this upcoming year so I figure I have a good shot as reapplicant and with my current stats (34 ACT, 3.2 college GPA, Chemistry TA, Corps of Cadets)
 
How common is it to see college reapplicants, NAPSters/ prior enlisted, foundations students? I have read that they make up 30% of the class every year (?)

How common is it to double major?

Can you take classes during the summer to make space during the normal year to take more classes?

What is something that you didn't know, but wished you did, before arriving/ attending at USNA?

Thank you in advance!
 
There's also 4 empty spots from congressional my district this upcoming year so I figure I have a good shot as reapplicant and with my current stats (34 ACT, 3.2 college GPA, Chemistry TA, Corps of Cadets)
4 of 5 spots total available from 1 District next cycle? That would mean between graduation next month and unplanned attrition, that 4 appointees credited to 1 MOC are/will be gone. Highly ususual.

If you are thinking that 4 appointees who happen to live in your District are graduating this May, therefore 4 of your MOC’s appointment slots are available, that is likely incorrect. There can be many appointees from a District, but their appointments may be charged to other nom authorities, such as Presidential, VP, JROTC/ROTC, service-connected, SECNAV, or the SA’s ability to appoint other fully qualified candidates off a slate of up to 10 names.

Even if that is the case - I doubt the MOC would do 4 slates this coming cycle. The SA would not like to see it either. Why? That would impact the ability to nominate in subsequent cycles as 4 appointees in 1 class would soak up the capacity (max of 5 across 4 classes) for several years. I suspect it will be the usual slate of 10 names for 1 seat, or at a max, 2 slates for a total of 2 seats, in the coming cycle. Just think through the practical math - a Senator or Representative may have 5 appointees charged to them for each SA at any 1 time. Charged is the key word. Elected officials happily celebrate all constituents who are offered appointments, regardless of where charged.

I am not trying to jump on your hopefulness, just re-calibrate the likely parameters.

Best wishes for a successful re-application.
 
4 of 5 spots total available from 1 District next cycle? That would mean between graduation next month and unplanned attrition, that 4 appointees credited to 1 MOC are/will be gone. Highly ususual.

If you are thinking that 4 appointees who happen to live in your District are graduating this May, therefore 4 of your MOC’s appointment slots are available, that is likely incorrect. There can be many appointees from a District, but their appointments may be charged to other nom authorities, such as Presidential, VP, JROTC/ROTC, service-connected, SECNAV, or the SA’s ability to appoint other fully qualified candidates off a slate of up to 10 names.

Even if that is the case - I doubt the MOC would do 4 slates this coming cycle. The SA would not like to see it either. Why? That would impact the ability to nominate in subsequent cycles as 4 appointees in 1 class would soak up the capacity (max of 5 across 4 classes) for several years. I suspect it will be the usual slate of 10 names for 1 seat, or at a max, 2 slates for a total of 2 seats, in the coming cycle. Just think through the practical math - a Senator or Representative may have 5 appointees charged to them for each SA at any 1 time. Charged is the key word. Elected officials happily celebrate all constituents who are offered appointments, regardless of where charged.

I am not trying to jump on your hopefulness, just re-calibrate the likely parameters.

Best wishes for a successful re-application
Thank you for the wishes. Indeed there are several people from my district at the academy, but for the last two years the ones appointed through my congressman turned down their appointments, the year before that the one charged to my congressman DOR'd. In that time there were several from my district who were charged to the senator's slates.
 
How common is it to see college reapplicants, NAPSters/ prior enlisted, foundations students? I have read that they make up 30% of the class every year (?)

How common is it to double major?

Can you take classes during the summer to make space during the normal year to take more classes?

What is something that you didn't know, but wished you did, before arriving/ attending at USNA?

Thank you in advance!
You can research the incoming class stats yourself. Here’s a sample:

You will figure out whether you have the time, inclination and ability to double-major soon enough. There may be non-academic things you want to be involved in to promote growth and leadership ability. Your sailors and Marines you will lead don’t care about your academic choices. You’ll get plenty of briefs and be able to observe and talk to upperclass about their choices and path through USNA. There will be time to figure out what is the best combination for you.

And yes, many mids take voluntary summer school classes instead of a leave block to ease the ac year course load or meet other personal goals.

I know the OP firstie is no doubt busy wrapping up the last academic semester and running around doing pre-comm things, so I’ve offered what I know. Current mid insights are priceless, though.
 
Even if that is the case - I doubt the MOC would do 4 slates this coming cycle. The SA would not like to see it either. Why? That would impact the ability to nominate in subsequent cycles as 4 appointees in 1 class would soak up the capacity (max of 5 across 4 classes) for several years.

I have wondered how this situation would be handled and assumed they wouldn't take more than 1-2 to ever leave themselves with zero available.
But, would those spots go unused? Or could a lucky Charge-Surfing Mid get charged to a different source each year to fill in the gap years?
 
I have wondered how this situation would be handled and assumed they wouldn't take more than 1-2 to ever leave themselves with zero available.
But, would those spots go unused? Or could a lucky Charge-Surfing Mid get charged to a different source each year to fill in the gap years?
It all gets figured out - the Admissions staff and MOC staffers regularly communicate. I am sure any declined appointments allow USNA to quietly charge some other qualified candidate on the slate to the elected official. A DOR merely opens the door for a potential two-slate cycle the coming year. I would assume there is a point where the charged source is inked and final.
 
Hi all,

I’ve spent 4 years at the place I dreamed of going to for years, and my prison break date is just a few weeks away. It’s been quite the journey. I haven’t been on these forums since high school, but I thought randomly that I might swing through and see if I can help anyone out.

I’m happy to answer any and all questions — admissions, life here (academic, athletics, social, COVID era), whatever you got.

For any lurking mids who are looking at my username and trying to guess who I am, no, my name is not hunter.
Some of your fellow mids use “Real Mids of Annapolis” co-star as a tagline. You qualify for the cast!

A gift for you:
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I’m a sophomore and thank you for making this thread! I will be visiting USNA in two months for their stem program so I am curious about your experience.

1). What made you want to attend the Naval Academy instead of the other four (USAFA, West Point, and so on).

2). As a 1/C mid, what do you and your peers do on the weekends. How do you like Navy’s location in Annapolis?

3). All the SA’s are unique in their own ways, so what do you think makes Navy unique compared to the other academies. Why should one consider it as their top-choice?

4). How is the STEM curriculum at Navy and do you get a lot of hands-on experience? Do you like the professors and do you receive a lot of academic assistance when you need help?

5). Do mids get assigned their careers for after graduation or they get to choose what they want to do as an officer? What will you be doing?

6). How is the physical standards at Annapolis and are you currently in any sports?

Thank you in advance and congratulations on finishing out your Naval academy journey to becoming an officer! (Sorry that’s a lot of questions)

Thanks to everyone for the questions -- I'll try to get around to everything. I will do my best to be completely honest; so many people come here with the academy on this gold and shiny pedestal only to realize it wasn't everything they thought it was. Been at school all day so I haven't been able to respond yet.

1). Honestly, I had a strange attachment to the Naval Academy for no good reason. Looking back, I wish I considered West Point more. That's not to say that I regret my decision; I wholeheartedly know that I made the right choice to come to Navy. However, depending on what you want to do in the military, give the other services a look. For example, I know TONS of midshipmen that want nothing to do with ships or submarines... not a great place to start considering half of every class will end up in those communities. It's nearly impossible to avoid ships/submarines, regardless of the community you go into -- even Marines, especially now with Force Design 2030. Please, don't come here simply because you liked the school more. You'll be spending more time in the service than at whatever academy.

2). Weekends are great as a firstie. At this point in the year, we have weekday liberty, and have overnights Friday and Saturday. Things that people do vary, but in general, I think an all-encompassing word that describes weekends here is "relax." Lots of people go to their sponsor's place or have a friend with an apartment that their parent pays for, etc. Also, an observation that I think most midshipmen would agree with is that a lot of firstie weekends are spent in DTA (downtown annapolis) at the bars. Overall, the most consistent theme among midshipmen weekends is that they try to get away from the academy and forget about it for a couple days before it's back to work.

3). Consider Navy as your top choice if you think the Naval Service is the environment in which you want to lead. Like I touched on earlier, each Service Academy is unique, but I would think further ahead into the TYPE of service you want to be doing when considering which academy to go to. Navy's unique for its location. I think you can't argue that it's the best among the SAs, unless you're considering USMMA.

4). STEM Curriculum is solid, but definitely kicks some people in the butt. Regardless of major you WILL be taking classes like Electrical Engineering and Thermodynamics. If you're an engineering major I think there's a decent amount of hands on experience, especially because we all have to have a firstie Capstone project. Basically, it's like a senior thesis. I'm personally an Econ major, so it depends on what you classify as "hands on."

Professors are VERY available here; when they come here, they know that there is a great emphasis on teaching, unlike some big research universities. If you have bad grades you really don't have much of an excuse. There are tenured professors here who will come in at 10pm just to have one-on-one with a student. Usually, all you need to do is ask. Of course, as is anywhere, there are bad instructors. But, even they are usually willing to help.

5). The process is known as service assignment. In August of your firstie year you put in preferences, and in November you find out what you get. Ultimately, to answer your question, your warfare community is assigned to you, but you have a say in what you want. There's never any guarantees, though, unless you early-select for a nuclear community. I will be a Marine Corps Officer.

6). This is an interesting question. In all honesty, I think you would be surprised by the amount of people at our institution that aren't in great shape. I will say this, though -- our PRT (physical readiness test) standards are much higher than the actual Fleet. So, as long as you're passing, you're technically well within the Navy's standards. Overall, as long as you're passing the PRT, how much you workout and how good of shape you're in is 100% up to you, if you're not a varsity athlete. I know guys that work out for about a week every semester, right before the PRT, and I know guys that work out for hours every day. Whatever works for you. At the moment I am not in any sports, but I'd be happy to answer any questions about them.
 
Do you know anyone doing a med school route through USNA? How competitive does it seem to be? I know that they typically only have 12 slots per year, but I've also heard by the time of interviews, there are not that many mids in the running.
This is true, but for the love of all good things in this world, do not come here if you want to go to med school. The only reason there are not many mids in the running by firstie year is because a TON of people quit ahead of time. Fulfilling premed requirements here is very tough, and you don't get to take a gap year like some people to do to study for the MCAT. There's always a ton of plebes that say they want to go Med Corps when they first show up, only to realize it's a futile effort. I am personally aware of two people in my class going Med Corps, and they had a game plan from day one. Again, if you're okay with doing something else in the Navy, it's not bad to have that goal, but definitely don't come here with the expectation that it'll work out.

Service selection?
Marine Ground
No questions from me, but congrats. I have a friend who helped my son decide on USNA and he said "it's not a great place to be, but it's a great place to be from". Your almost to the good side of equation.
Once in a while alumni will try to convince me that this isn't true, and that being here is great. I tend to think the quote is pretty accurate hahaha.

I am a college sophomore considering applying next year, how uncommon is it to see people at the academy with several years of college experience before plebe year?
It's actually very common. I have lots of friends who did one or two years of college, and several that did three. Feel free to ask more specific questions about these circumstances.
 
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