I had no idea NWP was only 1 semesterAnyone know the difference between these two programs? I know Northwestern is only a 1 semester program and Marion is a full year? Pros? Cons? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your reply. Do the students work on SAT skills? Do they take an SAT class? My son needs to up his SAT. I think, but who really knows, that everything else is good.They are two different choices. Depends on what you what you need to accomplish, etc. I can't speak for NWP so I won't. MMI is the only one of the civil prep schools recognized by all 5 SAs. It is also an accredited junior college which means you earn college credit. It also organized and run with a military bearing, i.e., a basic training program upon arrival, early PT wake up calls, uniforms, salutes, ranks, professors who have served and are addressed by their rank, etc. My DS currently attends as a self-sponsored prep in their Service Academy Program. For him, this was the best choice because he wanted to experience the daily life, and improve his leadership creds. He didn't need to improve SAT/ACT scores, although he did. He is now more convinced than ever he wants to serve, hopefully via an SA appointment.
Our son went to NWP. The best investment we made for this future. The Durbecks know their stuff! Prepsters attend NWP for one semester, then attend a college near their home for the Spring. Prepsters do not receive credits towards college when they are attending NWP. Highly structured program, professors and teachers do a fantastic job in all subjects, our sons ACT scores improved...Anyone know the difference between these two programs? I know Northwestern is only a 1 semester program and Marion is a full year? Pros? Cons? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
My son went to MMI a couple of years ago, 100% of the sponsored and self-sponsored USMA candidates received appointments. that seems to be the norm down there. We are a long way from Alabama but that place holds a special place in our hearts for what it did for our cadet...
Wow that's impressive. What is the school like? Location-Campus?My son went to MMI a couple of years ago, 100% of the sponsored and self-sponsored USMA candidates received appointments. that seems to be the norm down there. We are a long way from Alabama but that place holds a special place in our hearts for what it did for our cadet...
MMI has a mandatory SAT/ACT prep class as part of the academic calendar. I believe the SAP program has 120 cadets, with about 55 of those sponsored by an SA. The remaining 65 are self-sponsored. Virtually all of the sponsored cadets will get an appointment. From my back of the envelope math based on prior year history, somewhere between 60-70% of the self-sponsored cadets will get an appointment. Ultimately, for self-sponsored cadets, it comes down to maximizing the opportunity to improve your application, regardless of the school you choose. For my DS, MMI has been a great choice. He loves the lifestyle and daily challenges it presents. He has worked his tail off, has taken leadership roles, improved his SAT/ACT, received virtually straight As in his college classes, kept his nose clean, and we now wait to see if an appointment arrives.Thank you for your reply. Do the students work on SAT skills? Do they take an SAT class? My son needs to up his SAT. I think, but who really knows, that everything else is good.
I heard that so far this year MMI has gotten 22 appointments to the USMA. I also read that in 2018 they had 96 SA appointments. There are just about 100 students in the SA program so does that mean that almost all will get admission to an SA?
During the 1st semester at MMI, cadets needing to raise their SAT scores are required to attend mandatory study sessions for prep. My DS did not need to raise his score; however, he did take the exam again and raised his score by 50 points. DS mentioned one cadet improved by 125 points. The course schedule for SAP cadets mirror the academies. DS took calculus, physics, chemistry, English comp, military science, and SAP training his first semester. Second semester is again the same classes at a higher level.Thank you for your reply. Do the students work on SAT skills? Do they take an SAT class? My son needs to up his SAT. I think, but who really knows, that everything else is good.
I heard that so far this year MMI has gotten 22 appointments to the USMA. I also read that in 2018 they had 96 SA appointments. There are just about 100 students in the SA program so does that mean that almost all will get admission to an SA?
MMI has a mandatory SAT/ACT prep class as part of the academic calendar. I believe the SAP program has 120 cadets, with about 55 of those sponsored by an SA. The remaining 65 are self-sponsored. Virtually all of the sponsored cadets will get an appointment. From my back of the envelope math based on prior year history, somewhere between 60-70% of the self-sponsored cadets will get an appointment. Ultimately, for self-sponsored cadets, it comes down to maximizing the opportunity to improve your application, regardless of the school you choose. For my DS, MMI has been a great choice. He loves the lifestyle and daily challenges it presents. He has worked his tail off, has taken leadership roles, improved his SAT/ACT, received virtually straight As in his college classes, kept his nose clean, and we now wait to see if an appointment arrives.
That sounds great. I'm hoping for your son too - please post when you know.We are waiting to hear as well. Hoping to hear great news soon! Keeping fingers crossed for all the SAP cadets!
I tried calling NWP and left MANY messages and they NEVER called me back so in my book that tells me something. I called MMI and spoke to the gentleman who runs the prep program and by far and away he impressed me (also did the same with GMI and NMI). Best part about MMI is that if for some reason you change your mind you still have a full year of college that you can transfer anywhere. northwestern is not an accredited school and nothing will transfer. Also the fact that they don’t post their stats nor return calls....makes me dubious. Also the cost of one semester at Northwestern is the cost of a full year at MMI. If you are well to do, not a problem I guess.Anyone know the difference between these two programs? I know Northwestern is only a 1 semester program and Marion is a full year? Pros? Cons? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
They will tell you how many were in...just need to call and speak to the gentleman who runs the program.I see value in both. As an ALO, I had a candidate whose father (USMA grad) was the one to always call me (often) and it made me wonder if the student really wanted a service academy. The candidate received a NOM, but not an appointment. They considered all of the options and selected NWP. Following the candidate's semester at NWP - it was night and day. The candidate was contacting me and the language of the emails and phone calls suggested a radical transformation had occurred in the student to where he was taking charge of his future and it was great to see. He ended up receiving an appointment to USMA.
As a parent, I read NWP as the final booster shot to make a good candidate a great candidate by boosting the standardized test score and upping the CFT score. I like that some students spend 1 year at MMI and have an associates degree that is now portable to a Plan B school of their choice. Both seem to have a terrific track record for both sponsored and self prep. I was surprised to see GMC describe their first self prep success with USCGA in 2018, while the data on MMI's website suggest they have years of history with self prep success to USCGA. I like that MMI lists the data, but it is missing an element of transparency - how many were in the program, not just who succeeded in receiving an appointment.
Yikes! I’m sure there is a very simple explanation for the delay in your call back from NWP. In addition they do offer scholarships once you apply that helps with the expense. Our DD would not have traded her year/semester @ NWP for anything. It was an amazing experience.I tried calling NWP and left MANY messages and they NEVER called me back so in my book that tells me something. I called MMI and spoke to the gentleman who runs the prep program and by far and away he impressed me (also did the same with GMI and NMI). Best part about MMI is that if for some reason you change your mind you still have a full year of college that you can transfer anywhere. northwestern is not an accredited school and nothing will transfer. Also the fact that they don’t post their stats nor return calls....makes me dubious. Also the cost of one semester at Northwestern is the cost of a full year at MMI. If you are well to do, not a problem I guess.