MOC slots at USNA

usslloyd

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I think I know the answer to this but just reaching for something better. If one of your MOC's currently has 5 midshipmen at USNA (I think that's the number?), you are just out of luck on the total number of possible nominations/appointments available to you? We have one Senate nomination. We should be very grateful for that and we are, but can't help wishing there would have been another one to shoot for, as we have read everything here about the benefits of having more than one nomination. We also know there is no guarantee we would have gotten that other one. I understand there is some "juggling" that can happen if you are fortunate enough to be favored by admissions/nominations, and other (very limited) possibilities like the VP - I guess that's the hope if you don't win your slate?
 
That is an interesting question. I believe that particular MOC (who already has the maximum number of Mids charged to them, attending the Academy) can still put candidates on his/her slate (in order to pre-vet them and let the Academy know that they would give them a Nom if they could).

I will watch this thread, because honestly, I don't know either.
 
I think I know the answer to this but just reaching for something better. If one of your MOC's currently has 5 midshipmen at USNA (I think that's the number?), you are just out of luck on the total number of possible nominations/appointments available to you? We have one Senate nomination. We should be very grateful for that and we are, but can't help wishing there would have been another one to shoot for, as we have read everything here about the benefits of having more than one nomination. We also know there is no guarantee we would have gotten that other one. I understand there is some "juggling" that can happen if you are fortunate enough to be favored by admissions/nominations, and other (very limited) possibilities like the VP - I guess that's the hope if you don't win your slate?
There is a difference between a MOC having 5 midshipmen from the district attending USNA and 5 midshipmen charged to the district. A MOCs nomination can be used without charging it to the MOC.

If a MOC has five charged to the district, the MOC can make no nominations whatsoever until one of those midshipmen leaves. If 20 are attending, but only 4 charged, the MOC can still nominate a slate of ten. SA's coordinate with MOCs to avoid having no vacancies in a year. Years ago this did happen, but is very rare today.

Complicated system, but a general example might help explain:

A MOC nominates 10 candidates. One district winner is appointed and charged to the MOC. Three others are also appointed (not sure what USNA calls them. USMA calls them Qualified Alternates and Additional Appointees). The MOC will be charged with one midshipmen, even though four are attending from that slate.
 
Thanks to all. That's actually more interesting (and convoluted, of course) than I thought. I guess the bottom line is: be happy we have at least one Senate nomination, and hope to win the slate or one of the other multiple scenarios occurs; e.g. someone else on your slate gets charged to their other MOC if they're WCS is better, or something. There's a lot of possibilities, right ? We now wonder how long it can take to sort it out, and know there's no answer (other than up to I day)...
 
Just because there are five cadets at the academy from your congressional district does not mean that they are all charged to that MOC. There is no way to know this information unless your MOC tells you.

The academies keep a pretty close eye on this and it would be very unusual for an MOC not to have an opening this year.

One of my districts that I support as an FFR had three from the same high school last year but they are charged in different places.
 
Yes, usslloyd, there are many possibilities. More than likely your DS will know one way or another, by April 15th.
That's not much solace, I know. :)
 
THParent, thanks for that, and for all the insight offered here. It may sound strange, but asking these questions helps in the waiting process, and we very much appreciate all who share their knowledge and experiences. We're actually on hold for USNA and NROTC Marine option, but did not crush the PFT. And here's a shocker, our DS is doing better than the parents...he wants it very badly, just more sane than us...
 
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