National Wait List (NWL)
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How many, would probably be how many decline appointments. My guess is that they will begin pulling from the HOLD group after May 1st.
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@jw68, going forward after 1 April of the admissions cycle, all future appointments during this cycle would come off the NWL. The school has a desired amount of students they want entering for the class of 2024. Data from the prior 3 cycles suggests that appointments will continue to flow out a few per week with an anticipated inflection point of more than a few occurring ahead of the 1 May acceptance deadline. After 1 May, anyone that they have not heard from will be considered a DECLINE (as I understand it). At that point, they will continue working through the NWL to fill the class to the target level. Every class is different, but they all seem to follow the same overall trajectory and it is clear that appointment offers typically trickle out all the way through June.
The statement that after 1 April all remaining slots come from the NWL has me a little confused. For example say State XYZ has 5 allotments and 9 “qualified” students are applying for those 5 slots. Clearly the top 5 for that state are offered appointments before 1 April. Let’s say 2 of those 5 decline on 30 March. Wouldn’t KP offer the next 2 ranking students on the “qualified hold” list appointments before pulling from the NWL after 1 April? For people like me on the hold list it’s all out of my hands, just wanted to understand how the cards are dealt. I’m grateful to have an ROTC scholly in hand as a plan B. Hoping for Plan A to be dealt to me on the river card.
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@JoeNavy89 , this information stems from a Wisconsin lawsuit by candidates in the scenario you described. I suspect that things are not automated within the Admissions department. They have a tiny staff. Your logic assumes things are cued up and that there is a process that would fire off after receiving a decline on 30 March. There is nothing I read that discusses timelines that would be considered customary between receiving a declination and then the Academy turning that around into the next round of offers for applicants from a State's pool. It is 100% possible that the school could quickly respond with additional offers to the state, but the policy just tells us that offers made AFTER 1 April would come off the NWL.
The concept of fairness is not exactly binary - it depends on which side you sit on. This is a taxpayer funded (for the most part) school. As such, there are politics involved and your population of the student body should (to a large extent) reflect the population of people paying for the education. If you are from a small state, you want to ensure your constituent base is represented. If you are from a large state, and are highly competitive but on the NWL, you want a meritocracy because your numbers could be better than the guy/girl from the small state.
The construct of the USMMA timeline appears to cater to both factions by having a codified weighted distribution occurring early in the admissions cycle, and then an order of merit off NWL later in the cycle.
Check out my post here:
The concept of fairness is not exactly binary - it depends on which side you sit on. This is a taxpayer funded (for the most part) school. As such, there are politics involved and your population of the student body should (to a large extent) reflect the population of people paying for the education. If you are from a small state, you want to ensure your constituent base is represented. If you are from a large state, and are highly competitive but on the NWL, you want a meritocracy because your numbers could be better than the guy/girl from the small state.
The construct of the USMMA timeline appears to cater to both factions by having a codified weighted distribution occurring early in the admissions cycle, and then an order of merit off NWL later in the cycle.
Check out my post here:
USMMA slot allocation by State
In the c/o 2024 DIY Appointment thread, the concept of States having a fixed number of slots came up. I had never heard of this level of definition, and it peaked my interest. A court case is referenced by @beyond and links here: https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.dev/files/docs/Domine v...
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Thank you sir and also for the link, now it makes more sense.