New command chaplain

JBGILB said:
Perhaps cookiecafemom should stick to what she does best-baking cookies and serving milk to the midshipmen and offering them an afternoon of relaxation. Nothing more- anything else is outside the scope of what her responsibilities should be. The mids LOVE cookie cafe and all cookiecafemom does for them and probably aren't too concerned with the change in Chaplin- as a previous poster noted-they are college kids...church is not a high priority to most, not all, but most.
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Cookiecafemom is one of the kindest and most thoughtful people I have had the pleasure of interacting with at KP. First she was beat up for things she didn't say and now insulted by implication because she bakes cookies and serves milk. Really JBGILB?? Let me enlighten you- I make a damn good cookie and have baked several hundred in the past year for the mids with my 3 post graduate degrees, including a PhD.
 
something we all agree on

There is a simple principle that applies to every workplace.

No one likes to hear about changes in the workplace from a source outside the organization. It makes the workers feel alienated and devalued. However, sometimes inadvertant errors occur.

So for the sake of peace, perhaps we can all agree that there may have been an unfortunate oversight and lack of communication and hopefully no serious damage has been done.
 
Dr. Jessibee-
In simple terms, how would cookie cafe mom feel if Adm Green came into to cookie cafe and started telling cookie cafe mom she was baking far too many chocolate chip cookies??

No one should put their nose where it doesn't belong. Be good, be very good at what you do best and leave the USMMA's personnell issues to the US government and the USMMA administration.

Remember..those who protest too much may find they have overstayed their welcome at KP and be tossed out on their bum....and that would be very sad.
 
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JBGILB said:
Perhaps cookiecafemom should stick to what she does best-baking cookies and serving milk to the midshipmen and offering them an afternoon of relaxation. Nothing more- anything else is outside the scope of what her responsibilities should be. The mids LOVE cookie cafe and all cookiecafemom does for them and probably aren't too concerned with the change in Chaplin- as a previous poster noted-they are college kids...church is not a high priority to most, not all, but most.
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I don't necessarily agree. That's a pretty harsh statement. I think she was simply trying to put out her thoughts that something wasn't handled very well. I jumped on a few words and probably went off more than I should.

I appreciate when others bring different views to this forum. If we didn't have interested parties then the school would never improve. It's nice to have people who care so much about an institution and its people.

A lot of people have mentioned that morale is low....if desired I wouldn't mind seeing the discussion of why/when/who started in a new thread.

One thing I have to remember myself for threads like this is that 'words have meanings'. We all choose the words we write for a reason (whether it is done in the subconscious or not) and using one word instead of something else (eg 1tallpoppy 'cowardly') can mean all the difference in the world. (or me screwing up and saying horse instead of dog)

Anyway, let's try to be nice even though we disagree (I feel a little bit like the pot calling the kettle black here). I will try to do the same.
 
What is harsh abut complimenting someone and praising the for their strengths, "....giving the mids an afternoon of relaxation", but cautioning them when it appears they have stepped outside the scope of their self-penned volunteer job description???

Simply put....Should the cookiecafemom be the moral arbiter for KP?

I believe we should let the appropriate leaders lead. Surely they don't want their every move critiqued (and on a public forum no less) by those allowed on campus in a volunteer capacity.
 
Wow, GBGILB, I am totally ashtonished with your statements concerning CookieCafeMom. I have been to KP and the Cookie Cafe. I have seen how the kids respond to both Cookie Cafe Mom and her husband. They love her and not just for the cookies either. As for her cookie all the cookies, she doesn't do that but she IS there for YOUR kid as well as mine.
Not only do they provide a place for the M/N and Plebes to relax and have something from home, but the kids go to them and ask them for advice, not just for everyday life but also spiritual advice. I was amazed as to how the kids respect them and love them.
Next, even if all she did was bake cookies for your MID, she still has an option that she is allow to state just like you did, although she did it much nicer than you did. She was talking about how people are treated and nothing more. Your comments were totally uncalled for and totally disrespectful. I would spank my kid for being so rude and disrespectful even if he was 30. There isn't any need for being mean and you were down right MEAN.
You owe her an apology.
AND . . . this is just my opinion so please, do not respond if you are going to be mean, disrespectul and rude to me too. : )
 
Sorry to be a liar but...

All:

Sorry to be a liar re my earlier statement:
I promise this will be my last post on this thread, have a good evening/life.
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but there are just some things that cannot be ignored.

cookiecafemom:

Let me once again apologize profusely. If there is ANYTHING in my earlier post that you believe would give anybody the expectation that I think it's okay for someone to post such a close-minded and rude statement as has been done by JBGILB then let me know, so the next time I might see you - you can as my late grandmother used to say "slap me upside the head." I could go on here but will only say there is NO WAY that I meant to state imply, or anything otherwise that people shouldn't be treated with common courtesy and respect even when there may or may not be a disagreement in they choose to voice an opinion or share information.

JBGILB: Re:

What is harsh abut complimenting someone and praising the for their strengths, "....giving the mids an afternoon of relaxation", but cautioning them when it appears they have stepped outside the scope of their self-penned volunteer job description??
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Where I work we have an expression, all be a little crass that I think is totally applicable here: please don't pee on my back and tell me it's raining. Come on, be a stand-up person - either defend your albeit indefensible position or do the right thing and apologize.
 
JBGILB said:
Dr. Jessibee-
In simple terms, how would cookie cafe mom feel if Adm Green came into to cookie cafe and started telling cookie cafe mom she was baking far too many chocolate chip cookies??

No one should put their nose where it doesn't belong. Be good, be very good at what you do best and leave the USMMA's personnell issues to the US government and the USMMA administration.

Remember..those who protest too much may find they have overstayed their welcome at KP and be tossed out on their bum....and that would be very sad.
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As KP is publicly funded, it would seem any U.S. tax payer has a vested interest to know, and comment on the policies of a public institution. Unless Adm. Green is financially invested in the cookie baking process, he has not "dog in the fight". Welcome to public service!
 
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