New SAT Scores

DaGrubs

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With the updated version (last March) of the SAT - with the best score now being 1600.....what is an good score vs an average score?
 

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With the updated version (last March) of the SAT - with the best score now being 1600.....what is an good score vs an average score?
I have looked all over the web trying to find the answers to that question. Look at class profile for 2020 and you should be able to get an idea. My DD took it in December on the old scoring scale and March with the new scoring and again in October and she was pleased with her scores this last time. 1350 this last time. Says she is done taking it. Lol.
 

DaGrubs

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I have looked all over the web trying to find the answers to that question. Look at class profile for 2020 and you should be able to get an idea. My DD took it in December on the old scoring scale and March with the new scoring and again in October and she was pleased with her scores this last time. 1350 this last time. Says she is done taking it. Lol.
Thanks for the info, I looked on the web too and couldn't find much. I will check out class profile for 2020 and see what it says. My DS has some work to do, so I want to know what he should be shooting for :)
 

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As a whole does the admissions board care about grades more or sats?
Also how much more do they compare about the math over critical reading?
 

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Thanks for the info, I looked on the web too and couldn't find much. I will check out class profile for 2020 and see what it says. My DS has some work to do, so I want to know what he should be shooting for :)
Wouldn't hurt to take ACT also. DD took it in May and October and she scored 3 points higher in math. USNA super scores also so keep that in mind. Have DS talk with his BGO and he can give him some guidance on the scoring and how it all works.
 
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Thanks for the info, I looked on the web too and couldn't find much. I will check out class profile for 2020 and see what it says. My DS has some work to do, so I want to know what he should be shooting for :)
With all due respect, he should be shooting for a 1600. No one not in admissions really knows whether there is a floor. Probably not, given all the various factors taken into consideration and the variously situated candidates (e.g., athletes, geographic and other diversity). However, my guess is that, like poor grades, a poor SAT score would be tough to make up for elsewhere in the overall candidate score. By all means, check out the 2020 profile, but the averages are likely not all that telling. At a minimum, I would think you would want to be toward the top of the 25-75% range they typically give. That's still not a guarantee. That's why I started with "shoot for 1600". Best of luck.
 

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I agree with HopefulDad3210. My son recently got an LOA and MOC nomination and I believe his grades and test scores had a lot to do with it because he didn't have much EC's(tutoring, 3 clubs, no community service) and only plays 1 sport(average player). He took almost all AP classes, scored very high on ACT and SAT. He has all A's and only 1 B on his transcript and the funny thing is, at all 3 of his interviews they asked him why he got a B!
 

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I have looked all over the web trying to find the answers to that question. Look at class profile for 2020 and you should be able to get an idea. My DD took it in December on the old scoring scale and March with the new scoring and again in October and she was pleased with her scores this last time. 1350 this last time. Says she is done taking it. Lol.
I hear for the academies 1300+ puts you in the range.
 

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Remember USNA and all the SA post averages. So some score higher and others lower. A 1300 in Fairfax, VA or San Diego, CA might not cut it when there are dozens with 1400+ and even 1500+. I always am baffled with the question of 'what should I shoot for?' Are you going to stop on the test after you think you have a 1400 and say 'that is good enough!' You should shoot to get the best score you can. Take the tests as much as you can afford to. But that means to study, get tutors, use online resources to improve your scores. This is one of the areas that not only helps you get into a SA, but any college, scholarship and other programs!
 

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Hoops nailed it right on the head. Why short yourself and settle for a "good" score. In 3 months, that good score might be no good enough and make admissions pick someone over you. If you're curious as to what are good/average score, college board has score converters on their website that you can use to get an estimate.
 

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Remember USNA and all the SA post averages. So some score higher and others lower. A 1300 in Fairfax, VA or San Diego, CA might not cut it when there are dozens with 1400+ and even 1500+. I always am baffled with the question of 'what should I shoot for?' Are you going to stop on the test after you think you have a 1400 and say 'that is good enough!' You should shoot to get the best score you can. Take the tests as much as you can afford to. But that means to study, get tutors, use online resources to improve your scores. This is one of the areas that not only helps you get into a SA, but any college, scholarship and other programs!
Maybe my question wasn't stated correctly, I by no means want my son to shoot for average (and neither does he). We were just confused with the scoring range of the new version vs the old version. Lots of helpful information being provided and we appreciate ALL of it.
 

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The only way you can even make this translation is to look at the USNA profile and then use one of the 'calculators' available to convert it. USNA doesn't release targets ever, they release class profiles. I don't think we will see a full class profile until 2022. I think 2021 will be a mixed bag. USNA might convert them into one profile for averages, but who knows
 

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Seems even the info posted on the USNA.edu site is inconsistent.

On the admissions page, the link to 2020 class portrait shows:
Middle 50% (25-75th) V 600-650, M 630-680

However, if you look at the .pdf version (link on the same page), is shows:
Middle 50% (25-75th) V 600-730, M 600-720

also shown is ACT:
E 26-32, M 27-31
 

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With all due respect, he should be shooting for a 1600. No one not in admissions really knows whether there is a floor. Probably not, given all the various factors taken into consideration and the variously situated candidates (e.g., athletes, geographic and other diversity). However, my guess is that, like poor grades, a poor SAT score would be tough to make up for elsewhere in the overall candidate score. By all means, check out the 2020 profile, but the averages are likely not all that telling. At a minimum, I would think you would want to be toward the top of the 25-75% range they typically give. That's still not a guarantee. That's why I started with "shoot for 1600". Best of luck.
100% this. Taking the ACT/SAT multiple times is an extremely helpful thing to do. I raised my ACT Math from a 25 on my first try to a 34 on my third try after lots of studying and practice. Always give yourself the most opportunities to exceed on these tests! :)
 

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Remember USNA and all the SA post averages. So some score higher and others lower. A 1300 in Fairfax, VA or San Diego, CA might not cut it when there are dozens with 1400+ and even 1500+. I always am baffled with the question of 'what should I shoot for?' Are you going to stop on the test after you think you have a 1400 and say 'that is good enough!' You should shoot to get the best score you can. Take the tests as much as you can afford to. But that means to study, get tutors, use online resources to improve your scores. This is one of the areas that not only helps you get into a SA, but any college, scholarship and other programs!
DD's BGO was very pleased with her scores. Said she was definitely in the range for the academies.
NavyHoops is spot on. A lot of this is relative to the competition in a district. There is no magic stopping point other than a 1600 and a 36. A 1350 SAT would appear to convert to a 28/29 ACT. That score would appear to be average at best. Does it make you competitive? Sure, you can call it competitive but its all relative. For my DD, that range of scores was enough for an appointment. For my DS who is a reapplicant, its not gonna cut it. He has a 34 ACT and in December he will be taking the SAT and ACT yet again. That should tell you how comfortable he is with his score.
 
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