NRTOC Math Recommendation

hyoujinnn

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Hello,
Recently, my freshman, sophomore, and junior year math teacher have retired. I currently am not taking any math courses in school as I have maxed out the curriculum. I am no longer able to contact my former teachers. How should I go about with the NROTC Math Recommendation?
Thank you in advance for your time.
 
Hello,
Recently, my freshman, sophomore, and junior year math teacher have retired. I currently am not taking any math courses in school as I have maxed out the curriculum. I am no longer able to contact my former teachers. How should I go about with the NROTC Math Recommendation?
Thank you in advance for your time.
Have you looked for them on social media? Asked your school or guidance counselor for help in getting in touch with them? They would have to contact the teacher, or forward something from you, they will not give away private contact info, but they can ask the retired teacher if they are willing to be in touch with you.
 
Have you looked for them on social media? Asked your school or guidance counselor for help in getting in touch with them? They would have to contact the teacher, or forward something from you, they will not give away private contact info, but they can ask the retired teacher if they are willing to be in touch with you.
I had originally asked the year prior but they said that at some point they had to draw the line as they were receiving too many. I'm not able to get in touch with them unfortunately. My counselor said that his attempts have been unsuccessful.
 
Hello,
Recently, my freshman, sophomore, and junior year math teacher have retired. I currently am not taking any math courses in school as I have maxed out the curriculum. I am no longer able to contact my former teachers. How should I go about with the NROTC Math Recommendation?
Thank you in advance for your time.
In order to remain "competitive" for an NROTC Scholarship you need to have a "completed" Calculus listed on your high school transcript with hopefully an excellent grade, AND you should still be enrolled in a math class as a senior even if your math high school curriculum is complete. I said to remain competitive. This isn't a rule. With that being said you should have the "Current" Calculus teacher's contact details listed on your application. Make sure you meet with him/her and tell them your dilemma and what you need from him/her. Good Luck.
 
I had originally asked the year prior but they said that at some point they had to draw the line as they were receiving too many. I'm not able to get in touch with them unfortunately. My counselor said that his attempts have been unsuccessful.

@hyoujinnn, may I ask how important completing this application is to you? Do you want to resolve this and apply, or fall short of completing your application? If resolved to overcome and finish this application, then read on. If not, then stop here.

All ROTC branches have a host of applications including Navy that are started but not completely finished by many candidates each year, who ultimately deliver an excuse instead of a result in fulfilling requirements of the application, or just don't see it through. It's designed to be a bit of a gauntlet and helps eliminate those that maybe aren't the right fit.

You could do the following:
1. Discuss this challenge with your NROTC application coordinator and confirm your options. If you took advanced math in 8th grade can that teacher write the recommendation? Surely you're not the first candidate with this challenge.
2. Call a meeting and if your parent is willing, come to school or zoom with you and your parent/ guardian to briefly meet with your counselor, school administration/ guidance leadership and math department chair to point out that this evaluation is a requirement and ask them how they as a team will help you to meet it. I understand some retirees stop picking up the phone, but all of your math teachers cannot be reached so soon after retirement? I'm annoyed with your counselor's described shrugging of his shoulders and ceasing to help - I believe more can be done to help you.
3. I would grab the bull by the horns here, and as noted nicely above network, use social media and find a way to reach these teachers. I would if the school won't help reach them very respectfully and directly via DM, text or a call. Check in on them (a common complaint I hear from recent retirees is that the phone never rings/ people don't ask about how they are doing), reminisce about how much they taught you, how you miss them/ are grateful for what they taught you, and talk about your dream. Ask for their help. I'd be astounded if all of them said no if you do this. But try the school approach first would be my recommendation.

Deliver a result, not an excuse, and as free advice, there are often alternatives even when someone in charge states "there's nothing else we can do" with an authoritative tone. You can choose to not accept this, if I were your parent I'd be pointing out that this evaluation is standing in the way of a potential career as an officer and tuition/ fees paid and I'd appeal that they help you fix this. I think they will help as long as you don't put your trust in your counselor who already told you he won't do more. This is too important to you to fall short over this. Advocate for yourself.

Good luck and thanks for your willingness to serve.
 
In other words - think outside the box and get it done. You will meet a lot of challenges like this in life and a lot of people that don’t do their job. Your guidance counselor should be your champion - go back and ask him/her again, if they don’t respond, go to their boss, have your parents go to the school and ask - securing a national ROTC Scholarship is not only an honor for you it reflects well on the school, so the principal may be more interested in helping. Most good teachers keep a file on their students. If you just had the class a couple of years ago, does your file contain enough information in it to allow your current math teacher to help? I cant believe your school or school district cannot reach out to the retiree if they need/want to do so.
 
All of what @Herman_Snerd said!!

An Officer thinks outside the box. ‘Where there is a will, there is a way’. Find the way. Honestly, you should be the kid in the classroom that your instructor would be MORE than happy to recommend! Retired or not. It makes sense to me the your counselor is respecting that they retired and is protective of their private info. But ONE of the 3, I suspect will be willing to fill out an evaluation of you….retired or not….if you are the kind of student that’s ‘worthy’ of their recommendation/evaluation.

OP, what ideas do YOU have, to overcome this hurdle?? Life is full of them!!

Good luck!
 
In order to remain "competitive" for an NROTC Scholarship you need to have a "completed" Calculus listed on your high school transcript with hopefully an excellent grade, AND you should still be enrolled in a math class as a senior even if your math high school curriculum is complete. I said to remain competitive. This isn't a rule. With that being said you should have the "Current" Calculus teacher's contact details listed on your application. Make sure you meet with him/her and tell them your dilemma and what you need from him/her. Good Luck.
Thank you for the information! I've completed AP Calc BC my junior year and I'm currently taking multivariable calculus at the local community college so coursework wise, I don't think I have a problem with that. I'll definitely try to meet with more people to see if they have the contact info.
 
@hyoujinnn, may I ask how important completing this application is to you? Do you want to resolve this and apply, or fall short of completing your application? If resolved to overcome and finish this application, then read on. If not, then stop here.

All ROTC branches have a host of applications including Navy that are started but not completely finished by many candidates each year, who ultimately deliver an excuse instead of a result in fulfilling requirements of the application, or just don't see it through. It's designed to be a bit of a gauntlet and helps eliminate those that maybe aren't the right fit.

You could do the following:
1. Discuss this challenge with your NROTC application coordinator and confirm your options. If you took advanced math in 8th grade can that teacher write the recommendation? Surely you're not the first candidate with this challenge.
2. Call a meeting and if your parent is willing, come to school or zoom with you and your parent/ guardian to briefly meet with your counselor, school administration/ guidance leadership and math department chair to point out that this evaluation is a requirement and ask them how they as a team will help you to meet it. I understand some retirees stop picking up the phone, but all of your math teachers cannot be reached so soon after retirement? I'm annoyed with your counselor's described shrugging of his shoulders and ceasing to help - I believe more can be done to help you.
3. I would grab the bull by the horns here, and as noted nicely above network, use social media and find a way to reach these teachers. I would if the school won't help reach them very respectfully and directly via DM, text or a call. Check in on them (a common complaint I hear from recent retirees is that the phone never rings/ people don't ask about how they are doing), reminisce about how much they taught you, how you miss them/ are grateful for what they taught you, and talk about your dream. Ask for their help. I'd be astounded if all of them said no if you do this. But try the school approach first would be my recommendation.

Deliver a result, not an excuse, and as free advice, there are often alternatives even when someone in charge states "there's nothing else we can do" with an authoritative tone. You can choose to not accept this, if I were your parent I'd be pointing out that this evaluation is standing in the way of a potential career as an officer and tuition/ fees paid and I'd appeal that they help you fix this. I think they will help as long as you don't put your trust in your counselor who already told you he won't do more. This is too important to you to fall short over this. Advocate for yourself.

Good luck and thanks for your willingness to serve.
Thank you for this! This is so in-depth and informative. I never considered discussing this with the application coordinator.
 
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