Ohhhh the waiting........

ZigAndBoon said:
If the application was reviewed, I was hopeful there would be a relatively quick decision
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There is a whole lot of work to be done after Admissions Board reviews the application. Once a Candidate is deemed "Qualified"by the Board, then the hard work of racking and stacking, and building the Class begins. There is a branch of Admissions . Noms and Appointments, that then evaluates each MOC Nomination slate to determine whom, among Qualified Nominees, gets the Offer of Appointment. That
ZigAndBoon said:
Messaged the BGO right before the April 15th big day to see if he knew anything. He said he didn't see anything regarding an appointment but he didn't see anything about a rejection either!
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BGO's don't know anything more than the Candidates themselves--BGO will not be the source of your Appointment or Rejection notice.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
There is a whole lot of work to be done after Admissions Board reviews the application. Once a Candidate is deemed "Qualified"by the Board, then the hard work of racking and stacking, and building the Class begins. There is a branch of Admissions . Noms and Appointments, that then evaluates each MOC Nomination slate to determine whom, among Qualified Nominees, gets the Offer of Appointment. That

BGO's don't know anything more than the Candidates themselves--BGO will not be the source of your Appointment or Rejection notice.
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This is incorrect. As a BGO I was able to see my candidate was Pending Congressional Notification regarding his appointment last Friday morning. There was a 3 business day wait before USNA notified him via email today. His MOC never called. A candidate who had been rejected was noted as such on my end as well.
 
MidCakePa said:
With all due respect, because there already is a wait list. DOD SAs’ recent acceptance yield is 85%. It’s a high and stable number, at least in recent years. It implies that the wait list is small. As @NavyHoops, who’s been in and around this process far more than most, said in another post: Some years, a few are plucked from the wait list. Other years, the wait list goes untouched.
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I don't understand how any year the waitlist would go untouched. I was told by a prior-enlisted mid that the 170 spots for prior enlisted are never filled, and the spots that aren't filled are put towards the waitlist.
 
Kjohnson21 said:
I don't understand how any year the waitlist would go untouched. I was told by a prior-enlisted mid that the 170 spots for prior enlisted are never filled, and the spots that aren't filled are put towards the waitlist.
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They aren’t put towards the wait list that many are thinking of. As in the wait list that just came out. The class has a goal number. USNA uses an algorithm to make X offers based upon meeting that goal number. They use all kinds of data to make a guess on what the yield will be. USNA has traditionally had a very high yield. There can be up to X amount of spots for prior enlisted. Yes, they are rarely 100% filled. USNA rounds out a class after all the MOC slates are determined, presidential, etc. USNA then pulls candidates from what is called the National Pool or the NWL. They can receive an appointment from here. If I remember correctly USNA is required to appoint the top 150 from this list, they are charged to Sec Nav. After that, USNA can appoint who they want from the list to round out a class.
 
There is NO requirement to fill a class of 170 from enlisted Navy or Marine Corps. See below - the language is "may be" not "shall" or "required" - which means there CAN BE up to that number. Spots for enlisted are not reserved.

Title 10 USC (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/8454)

(b)In addition there may be appointed each year at the Academy midshipmen as follows:
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(2) 85 nominated by the Secretary of the Navy from enlisted members of the Regular Navy and the Regular Marine Corps.
(3) 85 nominated by the Secretary of the Navy from enlisted members of the Navy Reserve and the Marine Corps Reserve.
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Any enlisted member who applies for a SECNAV nomination (active or reserve) will automatically get one by virtue of their status - it is NOT a competitive nomination.

I think OldNavyBGO's point was that Noms and Appts makes the appointment decision, not the Admissions Board. BGOs are NOT allowed to notify the candidate of their status - appointment, turndown, waitlist, etc. Even if the nominating official does not communicate with the candidate - the official notification is to come from USNA Admissions (email or portal). A good reason BGOs shouldn't be communicating the status is the recent example of cadidates receiveng a turndown, but then being offered a spot on the waitlist. There is nothing wrong with refering a candidate to their portal or email if a decision has been made.
 
usnabgo08 said:
I think OldNavyBGO's point was that Noms and Appts makes the appointment decision, not the Admissions Board. BGOs are NOT allowed to notify the candidate of their status - appointment, turndown, waitlist, etc. Even if the nominating official does not communicate with the candidate - the official notification is to come from USNA Admissions (email or portal)
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^ Exactly -- PLEASE DO NOT CALL YOUR BGO asking for information on your status. BGO's are not permitted to give whatever limited information we have. In fact, I wait until after a Candidate contacts me or I read about the appointment in the paper, before I call to offer my congratulations.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
^ Exactly -- PLEASE DO NOT CALL YOUR BGO asking for information on your status. BGO's are not permitted to give whatever limited information we have. In fact, I wait until after a Candidate contacts me or I read about the appointment in the paper, before I call to offer my congratulations.
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Thank you for this information! I was wondering what BGOs know and when. My DS just recently received his appointment - MOC call on Friday and email yesterday - but hadn’t heard anything from his BGO. He’s going to send a thank-you note to the BGO but wasn’t certain whether he’d be breaking the news or the BGO would already know (which influences how he words the message).
 
While we wait,,, off topic question. For the Covid vaccine experts out there, is the Moderna vaccine acceptable for the military? Will it help speed things up once we have the "Covid vaccine card" when we are at USNA/NAPS or NROTC Units? I really do not want it, but I am going to get it for the sake of everyone around me. I believe I already had Covid back in Feb. 2020. By the way, do you realize it is April 28, 2021 today? This has been the longest 2 weeks of my life. Keeping the FAITH! Fly NAVY!⚓ :groupwave:
 
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