Plebe year first semester complete AMA

What's your summer plan? Airborne or air assault? How are they selected?
I have CFT and an AIAD with about a month of free time this summer.

Very few plebes received either (only those very high on OML). I haven't heard of a single plebe below 250 in the class to get air assault and I only know one plebe who got airborne. Most of the cows still need a MIAD to graduate because of COVID, so that is where the majority of the slots went. The schools are selected based on OML. Those who still need an IAD to graduate will be placed on higher priority (usually will receive air assault).
 
My thoughts before coming here was that the bulk of cadets were going to be truly America's best and brightest (motivated to be soldiers), I believed that I was going to be thoroughly challenged in my courses based on material, and I thought the military aspect was going to be a lot harder than it is. The application process was extremely long and based on what I heard from my FFR/RC, West Point only wanted those with extremely high GPA's/Standardized Test Scores. I would say at least half of most of my classes are filled with individuals who struggle with algebra/writing cohesive essays. Also, many who have come here have literally said they do not want to be in the army. I find that the challenges of my courses come from being taught horribly. For example, many of my friends struggled in gen chem because of the way its taught: labs consist of material not yet taught, zero lectures (Thayer Method), course jumps around in book. I took most of these courses in college before coming, so I have a solid understanding of almost all of my classes, but I can totally see how someone who hasn't taken (or has a solid foundation in the subject) would struggle. They teach relatively simple subjects in an overcomplicated and unnecessarily difficult way. In terms of the military aspect, I have old grad family members who told me of the hazing/difficulties of their time here, and how they persevered through it all. I have yet to experience legitimate difficulty as a plebe, there hasn't been anything that has made me wonder why I came here and if it will all be worth it in the end, like the stories I've heard in the past. BEAST was kind of a joke with smoke sessions consisting of no more than 20 reps of calisthenics (push ups, flutter kicks, etc.). I assumed it was going to be like actual basic, like what my enlisted friends told me.

It is important to note these are just some of the aspects that surprised me about West Point, after I got here. I am not "hating" on the academy in any way, I am just pointing out what was different here than what I expected based on what I've read/heard from old grads.
Your peers who are struggling are fortunate to have someone like you who is not struggling in the same way available to support, coach and cheer them on.
 
I have CFT and an AIAD with about a month of free time this summer.

Very few plebes received either (only those very high on OML). I haven't heard of a single plebe below 250 in the class to get air assault and I only know one plebe who got airborne. Most of the cows still need a MIAD to graduate because of COVID, so that is where the majority of the slots went. The schools are selected based on OML. Those who still need an IAD to graduate will be placed on higher priority (usually will receive air assault).
Thank you. This is very helpful. Wondering how is the OML scored/evaluated? What's in it? What is the average or mean OML of the class?
 
My thoughts before coming here was that the bulk of cadets were going to be truly America's best and brightest (motivated to be soldiers), I believed that I was going to be thoroughly challenged in my courses based on material, and I thought the military aspect was going to be a lot harder than it is. The application process was extremely long and based on what I heard from my FFR/RC, West Point only wanted those with extremely high GPA's/Standardized Test Scores. I would say at least half of most of my classes are filled with individuals who struggle with algebra/writing cohesive essays. Also, many who have come here have literally said they do not want to be in the army. I find that the challenges of my courses come from being taught horribly. For example, many of my friends struggled in gen chem because of the way its taught: labs consist of material not yet taught, zero lectures (Thayer Method), course jumps around in book. I took most of these courses in college before coming, so I have a solid understanding of almost all of my classes, but I can totally see how someone who hasn't taken (or has a solid foundation in the subject) would struggle. They teach relatively simple subjects in an overcomplicated and unnecessarily difficult way. In terms of the military aspect, I have old grad family members who told me of the hazing/difficulties of their time here, and how they persevered through it all. I have yet to experience legitimate difficulty as a plebe, there hasn't been anything that has made me wonder why I came here and if it will all be worth it in the end, like the stories I've heard in the past. BEAST was kind of a joke with smoke sessions consisting of no more than 20 reps of calisthenics (push ups, flutter kicks, etc.). I assumed it was going to be like actual basic, like what my enlisted friends told me.

It is important to note these are just some of the aspects that surprised me about West Point, after I got here. I am not "hating" on the academy in any way, I am just pointing out what was different here than what I expected based on what I've read/heard from old grads.
Thanks so much for sharing and you've written it quite well. I did not think you we're "hating" on the academy, just sharing your experiences with others on the forum. Very valuable.
 
My thoughts before coming here was that the bulk of cadets were going to be truly America's best and brightest (motivated to be soldiers), I believed that I was going to be thoroughly challenged in my courses based on material, and I thought the military aspect was going to be a lot harder than it is. The application process was extremely long and based on what I heard from my FFR/RC, West Point only wanted those with extremely high GPA's/Standardized Test Scores. I would say at least half of most of my classes are filled with individuals who struggle with algebra/writing cohesive essays. Also, many who have come here have literally said they do not want to be in the army. I find that the challenges of my courses come from being taught horribly. For example, many of my friends struggled in gen chem because of the way its taught: labs consist of material not yet taught, zero lectures (Thayer Method), course jumps around in book. I took most of these courses in college before coming, so I have a solid understanding of almost all of my classes, but I can totally see how someone who hasn't taken (or has a solid foundation in the subject) would struggle. They teach relatively simple subjects in an overcomplicated and unnecessarily difficult way. In terms of the military aspect, I have old grad family members who told me of the hazing/difficulties of their time here, and how they persevered through it all. I have yet to experience legitimate difficulty as a plebe, there hasn't been anything that has made me wonder why I came here and if it will all be worth it in the end, like the stories I've heard in the past. BEAST was kind of a joke with smoke sessions consisting of no more than 20 reps of calisthenics (push ups, flutter kicks, etc.). I assumed it was going to be like actual basic, like what my enlisted friends told me.

It is important to note these are just some of the aspects that surprised me about West Point, after I got here. I am not "hating" on the academy in any way, I am just pointing out what was different here than what I expected based on what I've read/heard from old grads.
Curious of those that say they don’t want to be in the Army, why did they come to WP then? What reasons do they give for being there? Family history and pressure to attend WP, free education? Hate to hear that too because of how many kids have a strong desire to go to WP and serve after.
 
Thank you. This is very helpful. Wondering how is the OML scored/evaluated? What's in it? What is the average or mean OML of the class?
OML is scored based on your CQPA (Academic: 55%, Military: 30%, Physical: 15%). Military grades come from Military Science courses, Summer Trainings, and Military Discipline grade. Physical comes from DPE (Dept of Phys Ed) classes, and eventually the ACFT will be included once it is approved.

I think for summer trainings, it is based on just physical and military grades, but I could be wrong. It is hard for plebes to receive a high MD grade because there is a forced average of 2.7. Typically one plebe will receive an A, at the cost of the athletes receiving C's,; someone may even receive a lower grade.

The mean for CO '25 is about a 3.0 CQPA.
 
OML is scored based on your CQPA (Academic: 55%, Military: 30%, Physical: 15%). Military grades come from Military Science courses, Summer Trainings, and Military Discipline grade. Physical comes from DPE (Dept of Phys Ed) classes, and eventually the ACFT will be included once it is approved.

I think for summer trainings, it is based on just physical and military grades, but I could be wrong. It is hard for plebes to receive a high MD grade because there is a forced average of 2.7. Typically one plebe will receive an A, at the cost of the athletes receiving C's,; someone may even receive a lower grade.

The mean for CO '25 is about a 3.0 CQPA.
Thank you again.
 
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