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JTraveler@218

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My DS is at the beginning stages of applying to Academies. Looking through the Cross Country stats, he has run times fast enough to compete. Should he contact coaches now about potentially running for USCGA or wait until the application portal opens in July?
Thanks for thoughts! We are new to the process of academies AND collegiate athletics.
 
My DS is at the beginning stages of applying to Academies. Looking through the Cross Country stats, he has run times fast enough to compete. Should he contact coaches now about potentially running for USCGA or wait until the application portal opens in July?
Thanks for thoughts! We are new to the process of academies AND collegiate athletics.
Look for the recruiting questionnaire. I’m not sure where/if there is one for USCGA, but my recommendation is to fill that out. Get on their radar!!
 
Agree with the recruiting questionnaire. My son was being recruited by Navy football and one day the phone rang and I answered and it was the USCGA football coach. A really nice guy. It was a few years ago and I don't know who is there now but we had a nice convo. He said he'd love to have DS on the team but his grades weren't good enough to get in and to ask him to call and to consider prep school if he was interested. He told me the Coast Guard Academy was the hardest to get into. His words, not mine.
 
I would fill out the questionnaire, but I wouldn't hesitate to contact the coach either. I would send regular updates in terms of game stats videos, etc. Here is an example of my son's final hype video.


When I was shopping my son around I was pleasantly surprised at how many big time programs encouraged us to keep updating them with stats and videos. Now, my son plays water polo so football is probably different, but the Navy water polo coach gave everyone a bit of advice. A coach will tell you to stop contacting them if that's what they want. They are busy, so often they will store the info, but might not reach out. As time goes on they will start reaching out.
 
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I would fill out the questionnaire, but I wouldn't hesitate to contact the coach either. I would send regular updates in terms of game stats videos, etc. Here is an example of my son's final hype video.


When I was shopping my son around I was pleasantly surprised at how many big time programs encouraged us to keep updating them with stats and videos. Now, my son plays water polo so football is probably different, but the Navy water polo coach gave everyone a bit of advice. A coach will tell you to stop contacting them if that's what they want. They are busy, so often they will store the info, but might not reach out. As time goes on they will start reaching out.
Good advice. Navy football kept in contact with my son until they didn't. We had 50 yard line seats at home games, pre-game conversations on the field with Coach Paul Johnson during warm-ups, and occasional phone calls. Then it all came to a crashing, crushing end when he didn't make the slate. It was abrupt and came as a shock because we thought it was a done deal. We all survived however and he came out on the other side just fine.
 
Agree with @scprepoh. In many ways recruiting at a service academy is the same as any other school. Fill out the questionnaire, contact the coach, etc. Good chance you'll end up on a mailing list and receive general info from the program or canned emails from the coach that may go to all recruits. You may get a personal email from the coach, but don't be discouraged if you don't especially if it's early. Much depends on the sport and recruiting resources of the team. Many coaches don't put full effort into recruiting the next incoming class until the season is finished.

Also like any other college, a coach can't "get you in", however, they can advocate for the recruit during the admissions process. I think this is where service academies start to differ a little. At many civilian colleges, it's mostly about grades and maybe test scores and there's a fair amount of wiggle room (especially if we're talking about typical non-high academic schools), so being a recruited athlete may go a long way.

At service academies, particularly what I've heard from Coast Guard coaches is, they sort of get used to just taking what they get and making the most of it. Admissions standards are very high and include not only academics, but athletics, leadership, etc. It's not to say they don't put effort into recruiting, but I think they're well aware they could recruit complete studs, but if grades and the rest of their application is weak, it's almost pointless. Class size is very limited too. Especially at CGA, so not a lot of room to move.

CGA has a number system they use for sports recruits. Generally speaking, a 3 is a complete game changer, a 2 is a solid contributor, and a 1 is good enough to be on the team. There are benchmark numbers for each team they try to hit that's part of the admissions review process. This is obviously a moving target as kids graduate each year and new kids enter the program, so the number/quality of athletic recruits they're looking to plug into each sport will vary year to year. It will even vary some within the admissions cycle based on appointments offered/accepted/declined. For instance, if a recruited athlete for a particular sport declines their appointment sometime in April, admissions may be looking to the waitlist for another kid in that sport to fill the void. In a pool of many highly qualified candidates, it often comes down to luck of the draw based on current needs of the service.

The fact your son has times in line with CGA is great. He just needs to keep working, and make sure he's well rounded with grades, highest level STEM classes he can handle, and extracurricular activities with demonstrated leadership opportunities.

I'm not sure what grade he's in, but if he's currently a junior, he should apply to the AIM summer program at the Coast Guard Academy (application for this summer is open now). AIM has a competitive application process, but Coast Guard coaches can advocate for applicants in this too, so another good reason to establish contact with a coach. If he's not yet a junior, make sure AIM is on his radar for when he is.

Good luck!
 
Agree with @scprepoh. In many ways recruiting at a service academy is the same as any other school. Fill out the questionnaire, contact the coach, etc. Good chance you'll end up on a mailing list and receive general info from the program or canned emails from the coach that may go to all recruits. You may get a personal email from the coach, but don't be discouraged if you don't especially if it's early. Much depends on the sport and recruiting resources of the team. Many coaches don't put full effort into recruiting the next incoming class until the season is finished.

Also like any other college, a coach can't "get you in", however, they can advocate for the recruit during the admissions process. I think this is where service academies start to differ a little. At many civilian colleges, it's mostly about grades and maybe test scores and there's a fair amount of wiggle room (especially if we're talking about typical non-high academic schools), so being a recruited athlete may go a long way.

At service academies, particularly what I've heard from Coast Guard coaches is, they sort of get used to just taking what they get and making the most of it. Admissions standards are very high and include not only academics, but athletics, leadership, etc. It's not to say they don't put effort into recruiting, but I think they're well aware they could recruit complete studs, but if grades and the rest of their application is weak, it's almost pointless. Class size is very limited too. Especially at CGA, so not a lot of room to move.

CGA has a number system they use for sports recruits. Generally speaking, a 3 is a complete game changer, a 2 is a solid contributor, and a 1 is good enough to be on the team. There are benchmark numbers for each team they try to hit that's part of the admissions review process. This is obviously a moving target as kids graduate each year and new kids enter the program, so the number/quality of athletic recruits they're looking to plug into each sport will vary year to year. It will even vary some within the admissions cycle based on appointments offered/accepted/declined. For instance, if a recruited athlete for a particular sport declines their appointment sometime in April, admissions may be looking to the waitlist for another kid in that sport to fill the void. In a pool of many highly qualified candidates, it often comes down to luck of the draw based on current needs of the service.

The fact your son has times in line with CGA is great. He just needs to keep working, and make sure he's well rounded with grades, highest level STEM classes he can handle, and extracurricular activities with demonstrated leadership opportunities.

I'm not sure what grade he's in, but if he's currently a junior, he should apply to the AIM summer program at the Coast Guard Academy (application for this summer is open now). AIM has a competitive application process, but Coast Guard coaches can advocate for applicants in this too, so another good reason to establish contact with a coach. If he's not yet a junior, make sure AIM is on his radar for when he is.

Good luck!
Thank you for the recommendation of AIM and the other helpful information. He is currently a junior, so he still has time to apply! Thank you!
 
I would fill out the questionnaire, but I wouldn't hesitate to contact the coach either. I would send regular updates in terms of game stats videos, etc. Here is an example of my son's final hype video.


When I was shopping my son around I was pleasantly surprised at how many big time programs encouraged us to keep updating them with stats and videos. Now, my son plays water polo so football is probably different, but the Navy water polo coach gave everyone a bit of advice. A coach will tell you to stop contacting them if that's what they want. They are busy, so often they will store the info, but might not reach out. As time goes on they will start reaching out.
Love the hype video! Best wishes for continued success to him!
 
Thank you for the recommendation of AIM and the other helpful information. He is currently a junior, so he still has time to apply! Thank you!
Great! AIM is an incredible program and will definitely solidify if this is a path he wants to continue down.

01 April is the deadline, so still a couple weeks. Application isn’t too bad…a couple letters of recommendation are required which is probably the hardest part on short notice.

 
My DS is at the beginning stages of applying to Academies. Looking through the Cross Country stats, he has run times fast enough to compete. Should he contact coaches now about potentially running for USCGA or wait until the application portal opens in July?
Thanks for thoughts! We are new to the process of academies AND collegiate athletics.
Have him make an account now and click the recruit button. It’s never too early
 
Different sport, my DS plays lacrosse, but we put on the full contact blitz during his initial recruitment. Don't be shy to reach out to coaches, explain who you are and why you are interested. Having stats, film, etc., is a huge advantage as well. Good Luck!
 
The OP was asking about XC/TF, so times are mostly what matters. But for anyone else reading this later, if you want to play a varsity sport in college then a highlights video is something you'll want to get to eventually because every college coach will need some basis for evaluating your skill level. Sometimes just saying "I play on Famous Elite Team United" can get you in the door, but most of the time the club name means little and they'll want to see film. The video should not be anything elaborate, just a quick cover (Joe Smith, 6'1" 180 lbs, Elm High School, Elm IL, 3.8 GPA, 32 ACT, C/3B wearing #20) and then a few minutes of you doing things, no music, no huge production value, simply groups of clips showing you shooting, passing, tackling, whatever your sport requires. If your team has HUDL then you can sometimes assemble one in there. Lots of examples on other sites that outline what each sport typically wants to see.

But regardless of your sport, fill out the forms, maybe send a follow-up email to the coaches with a link to the video (in case one is getting inundated or is on vacation) and be ready to keep on it. D3 teams in general do not have large budgets or extra staff for recruiting and that leaves the responsibility in the hands of the student athlete. @mcboiler has the spirit of the thing: assume you are the one carrying this forward, not some imaginary recruiter.

Last point: sports can give you a leg up in admissions at some schools, but at the elite academic level you usually need to be able to get in on your own academic merit before a coach's weight can make much of a difference. Sports can separate you from other similar applicants, but you do need to be academically similar first. That's extremely true at the academies, where the end goal is significantly different from other schools. They aren't sending you into the world when you graduate, they are keeping you for years in a very important role and they need much more than a good shooting forward typically offers. Again, just mentioning this to temper expectations for posterity, not necessarily addressing @JTraveler@218.
 
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