regretting applying early action

Discussion in 'Coast Guard Academy - USCGA' started by goldenlion, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. goldenlion

    goldenlion 5-Year Member

    May 10, 2011
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    I'm getting this awful feeling that it was a mistake for DD to apply under early action. She should be getting some kind of envelope in the mail any day now.

    Over this Thanksgiving break, she has been doing more ACT prep for the test on Dec 10th. It appears that her ACT scores will go up significantly (from a 27 to a 32 or higher composite). In the past, she has always scored within one point of her test prep scores.

    The only reason that she is taking the ACT again is to increase her scholarships at her Plan B school. With only an increase of one point in her composite, she could qualify for an additional $11K in scholarships over 4 years.

    Thanks for listening to me during this waiting period.
  2. Weather

    Weather 5-Year Member

    Apr 17, 2009
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    It's good that your DD is retaking the ACT; Dec 10 is the last test date for scores to be considered by the CGA. It's also good that she has a "Plan B", as Academy admissions are very competitive this year. Hang in there; the Academy has until Jan 20 to send out the last letters for EA. Wishing you the best of luck, but either way, your daughter will be fine.
  3. cchung34

    cchung34 5-Year Member

    Aug 24, 2011
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    Why would you regret applying early action? It's much better than regular decision, because you'll be able to get notified MUCH faster. I'm sure that CGA Admissions is really booked right now with MUCH MORE applications to check, significantly more than the previous years. I believe that they will notify you as soon as possible. To my knowledge, CGA will notify you as soon as possible whether it be a acceptance, rejection, or a waiting list notification. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong with this information.
  4. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

    Apr 1, 2007
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    There is a belief that if one waits to apply under Regular Admission they may be able to add additional leadership, higher SAT/ACT scores, and updated grades that may improve their package. If the candidate was that close to the edge, than yes, waiting may help them.

    However, there is a trade off as in RA there will be fewer appointments to award, and the pool will now include college applicants and re-applicants who were not able to apply under EA.

    In actuality, for the majority of candidates there really is no "EA penalty" that seems to be a rumor this year. The candidates who receive TWEs this year under EA are just getting them earlier, so they can move on to Plan B long before April 15. Those candidates, who last year would have received "deferrals" did not have a realistic chance of appointment then either, as only 4% of those "deferred" under EA were appointment.

    This year, a much more meaningful "waiting list" will be kept (probably equaling the packages of "that 4%" that got in last year) rather than give false hopes to 1,200 deferred candidates.

    Good luck to all, go Bears.
  5. Dedham

    Dedham 5-Year Member

    Dec 27, 2010
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    Hang in there goldenlion. It is a tough call as to when to apply. When DS and I discussed it, we talked about the likelihood of significantly higher scores if he took the SAT again before applying, versus the fact that there would be more open slots for the CGA Scholars Program in early action than in prior years. He didn't do test prep over the summer, so we didn't think it was likely that his scores would increase significantly and there wasn't anything else to be included in his application that would change dramatically this fall. Also, he needs a medical waiver for a condition that was surgically corrected a year+ ago. So we decided he would probably fare best at the front of the line - the maximum number of spots available and time to get the medical waiver. However, it didn't work out.

    He has about six EA applications in to other schools, but he has also written to his AO about whether the deficiencies in his application can be addressed by a year of self-prep.

    Admissions is, of course, looking for bright individuals who have a proven track record and are persons of character. As an adult, it is great to see so many applicants that meet that description. However, with over 18,000 high schools in the U.S., that means there are over 18,000 class valedictorians every year. So, just as with "regular schools" I suspect that the USCGA has more than enough applicants that meet the academic criteria.

    The harder part for USCGA admissions is choosing the applicants that: (1) will stay for the four years (according to a string on the USMMA forum, Kings Point graduates 65% - 68% of the entering class); and (2) are likely to be capable of taking on significant responsibility when they graduate. Then, all things being substantially equal among those who meet all of the foregoing criteria, build a class with geographic, gender and racial diversity and meets the other needs of the Academy.

    This year, the USCGA may be the hardest school to get into in the country. Remember that the class size was cut from about 290 to 240. There are 50 60 CGA Scholars preparing to take seats in that class of 240. There are probably at least as many reapplying after a year of self prep.

    If your child is accepted, that will be awesome, but if not, I suspect he/she is resilient enough to find great alternatives. In a sense, being appointed to the USCGA makes things kind of simple because the student knows that he/she will be spending the four years with like-minded students and doing meaningful work for at least five years after graduation. For those who have to go with a Plan B, they must find a good fit school and a program that will prepare them for a less certain job career and then find a job after graduation. However, the work our children have done to make themselves competitive for the USCGA has prepared them well for Plan Bs.

    We have special children. They want to do good, rather than chase the dollar. The world will be a better place because of them whichever path they head down.

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