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aspiringpilot32

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Hello, I am currently in a relationship and I am a high school student getting ready to go to beast in a few months. Is it worth it to even try to keep my high school relationship? Will there even be time for to talk to them during my 4 years at West Point?
 
Hello, I am currently in a relationship and I am a high school student getting ready to go to beast in a few months. Is it worth it to even try to keep my high school relationship? Will there even be time for to talk to them during my 4 years at West Point?
Very nice of you to be thinking of this. At the SAs, there is something called the 2% club. That is, two percent of people who enter with a relationship keep it. If this person means that much to you, I don’t see why you wouldn’t at least try to keep the flame going. That said, if you didn’t already have a relationship, then it is not advised to start one.
 
Hello, I was in your shoes a couple years ago. I've watched a small group of my peers succeed and maintain their relationships, but the vast majority grow up, grow apart, and move on. There is nothing wrong with that. I kept my high school relationship into mid-Yuk year and then we broke it off. Ultimately we didn't have the time to dedicate to each other to be fair to one another. I've been able to do more and get more out of my experience here without feeling obligated to make hours of FaceTime calls. It's a time to "work on yourself" and make yourself better, IMO. YMMV as I do not know the specifics of your relationship.
 
If you really like your current relationship, don't break up on account of going to USMA. Take it month to month--and see how it goes. If you are not really that into it--then please allow your family to help you discourage this person from coming to R-Day and A-Day...However, if it is love, let it be love and see where it takes you all. Best wishes.

Also, yes, there is time...again, you get your phone back after Beast. There is A-Day, R-Day, Plebe Parent Weekend, Thanksgiving, Winter Break...the Army Navy Game...fall football games...Yuk Winter Weekend, and so many more events when it is nice to have a date and be together. Yes, you will be wildly busy but for some people having a steady best friend, confidant, & cheerleader who you love is the best comfort and motivation to keep going when things are tough. No one can know what is in your heart, right?
 
And make a promise to be honest with each other about how each of you are feeling about the relationship, because that is how a mature and loving relationship should proceed, even if it might be winding down. Be open and direct about how your life and personal time will be impacted. Two things often derail relationships: assumptions and expectations. Misalignments there cause disagreements, unpleasant surprises, hurt, and lack of trust, all corrosive. Mutual respect and active listening are also important.

The non-SA person will have to realize instant replies to texts, or extended calls, may not be possible at certain times, or you will be terse because you are in a mad rush to get something done or you’re in the middle of something. Do your best to shine light on those things, and respect the other person enough to let them decide if that is enough for them or they can cope with some craziness. Assumptions and expectations…
 
My favorite question to ask (with any choice really) is: Based on my past experience, current circumstances, and my future hopes and dreams, what is the WISE thing to do? My DS is wrestling with the same issue. Praying with all the above sage advice/context that this questions brings clarity for you.
 
My '21 OG and his High School sweetheart are part of the 2% Club. They are now married, own a home and loving life at their first duty station. BUT! I strongly counseled against it prior to R-Day and for the longest time he seemed to have 1 foot at West Point and 1 foot back home. It was a struggle early on. However, they stuck together, he figured out the right balance, and now we could not be happier with how it worked out. I had to eat some crow over my initial position on the matter. :) It can be done and if it is meant to last, it will, but to other's points here, it is best that you have that talk now. Best of luck.
 
“take it month to month—-see how it goes”

Sage advice.

A few years ago I saw an academy bound young man break up with his long time GF right before he left .

He was home and a civilian once again before thanksgiving break .

The question I would have is not about a 4 years relationship

But is having a BF or GF , going to school or working on the outside , a good thing or a bad thing as far as getting thru pleb year.
 
I am a 2% club member who would not recommend it (and my wife agrees)... I realize there is a lot to unpack there and it is difficult to explain. If we were to keep it to the high level points we communicated to our own DS, I would summarize the top 5 in no particular order:

1) BF/GF will be a distraction - there is no escaping this. Relationships are give and take. Any normal person will take into account the feelings and needs of their partner. This is a time in your life when it should be ok to be selfish and triple down on your own development and growth.

2) A civilian BF/GF can try to understand the world of a SA student, but it is truly impossible to fully grasp the demands on your time unless you are living it. Dating a fellow cadet/mid would at least eliminate this hurdle. Your HS friends who can come home on any given weekend set an expectation with the BF/GF that you too should be able to just be spontaneous and fly home for PROM or BIRTHDAY. Your course load is crushing and all consuming. Outsiders do not understand how even the quick text or FaceTime is taking away from MISSION GRADUATION.

3) It is unlikely there will be another 4 year period in your life that is this transformational. You are getting a degree from one of the top schools in the world. Your performance at this institution will drive your class order of merit which ultimately decides your career field and then finally your duty station. Without a laser focus on the goal, you could end up in a job role that is not your passion or in an area of interest. Your first role and assignment will play a significant role in whether you elect to stay or 5 and dive. Do you think it would be exciting to go to free fall school but the partner doesn't? Do you think it would be amazing to make Alaska your first duty station, but your partner doesn't? There are so many decisions happening in this short span of time that could have many different outcomes based on who you are trying to serve in that moment.

4) Your 20's should be a time of growth - personally in your career knowledge and through growing the network that will aid you in the rest of life's journey. Going from student, to graduate, to spouse, and potentially to parent in a very short period of time puts many other dominoes into play that begin to shape your next moves based on the new reality. Understand that the vast majority of your peers will not be getting married two weeks after graduation. What do those engagements look like as you start your journey in life as you try to establish those personal and professional relationships? There is the singles crowd, the dating crowd, and the married crowd. In many cases, those circles do not always mix and it may be limiting for you as a young couple in a foreign place as you seek to find community.

5) As a HS student from an average town, you may have exposure to 300 people you kinda know because you have occasional contact through sports or extracurriculars or class. There are millions of people on this planet and you have a ridiculously small sample size worth of exposure. You owe it to yourself to enter into this journey unencumbered. If you remain in contact with High School friends, and that relationship is still there over time, then that was likely meant to be. You should live a life on your own to experience that. Your partner should too. If the relationship is strong enough, it will be there once you figure out who you are when it is just you. 2% go from living with Mom and Dad, to living with a SA roommate, to living with their new spouse. You never have that opportunity to experience life with just yourself when the majority or the rest of the world did have that moment in time to learn who they were and what they wanted without the voices of others impacting those decisions.

How do you make it work? Both parties need to understand the longer range vision. The SA cadet/mid needs to understand that their individual goals need to remain #1 and you cannot be derailed. The partner needs to recognize this, but more importantly, they must accept this. It is in the best interest of the couple to have the cadet/mid graduate. Your future could potentially be radically different depending on the outcome of the mission. MISSION GRADUATION must be a mutual goal or everything else will fall apart because all decisions should be based on completing MISSION GRADUATION. The partner is either supporting or detracting from that mission. All to often, they are detracting and that is why there is a roughly 2% success rate. If it happens and you can make it work.... great - welcome to the club.
 
One thing that every parent notices pretty quickly is how much their plebe changes even by the first visit home at Christmas. The changes are apparent and represent a move toward the new "Officer" person they need to become. I'm not saying that a gf/bf can't love this new person, but over the course of the years the high school kid matures a lot, and in ways that might be surprising. @shiner is wise to call out a need for this new person to stand on his own feet, to get to know herself, before feeling confident enough to make a commitment like marriage.
 
For certain, not a ‘one a one size fits all’ situation/answer. But having an honest talk about expectations, etc is paramount to any hope of successfully traversing college/long distance relationship.

The fact of the matter, is much growth and change happens during these years. And whether at a SA or not, *most* high school relationships don’t last. Who you are the summer before your college freshman year, is very different from who you are 4 years later. Mentally, spiritually, and maturity wise. Whether the changes continue to bring you close, or grow you apart, is impossible to know.

Communication is key!! And honesy! With each other, and yourselves.
 
I’m sorry to say, it’s a distraction. Your entire life is about to change and you really need your head in the game from minute one. Before that actually. This is a time to focus on yourself and weathering a challenging transition without the emotional pull of a significant other. You will have very little time to devote to a relationship, particularly in the beginning of this experience. The good news is you are young and there is always the possibility of rekindling things down the road when you are established and have your feet firmly under you. Friends will get you through your years at WP, time is well spent developing bonds with the cadets in your company. Also a breakup, should that happen, could add a great deal of stress to an already stressful situation where you may not have the support you need. My advice for whatever it’s worth is to remain friends and focus on yourself and the adventure ahead of you. Best of luck.
 
DD had 2 year BF when she reported to R day. He had graduated HS the year before and was in the AF reserve and attending college. They decided to take it month to month and see. We loved this kid, and thought they were great together. Didn't make it to Thanksgiving. That's how it goes, sometimes.
 
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