Roller coaster I: Get Us (The Parents) Through Plebe Year - Class of ‘26 🎢

LST271 said:
This is the first time that I've heard of the fire team. Who are they and what do they do?
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The Brigade has a Marine Corps-based organization structure:

The Brigade of Midshipmen is made up of two Regiments. Each Regiment is made up of five Battalions. Each Battalion has five companies. Each company has four platoon. Each platoon typically has three squads (~10 people). Each squad typically has two fire teams. A typical fire team has a 2/C (fire team leader), two 3/C, and two 4/C.
 
Usnavy2019 said:
The Brigade has a Marine Corps-based organization structure:

The Brigade of Midshipmen is made up of two Regiments. Each Regiment is made up of five Battalions. Each Battalion has five companies. Each company has four platoon. Each platoon typically has three squads (~10 people). Each squad typically has two fire teams. A typical fire team has a 2/C (fire team leader), two 3/C, and two 4/C.
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Six Battalions.

Good layout.

Advanced reading:
 
And for the really nerdy among us...

The Brigade of Midshipmen is limited to 4,400, which gives you four (4) average class sizes of 1,100 Midshipmen, each. The Brigade is then divided into two (2) Regiments of 2,200 Midshipmen each. Each of these Regiments is further divided into six (6) Battalions of five (5) Companies each. Each Company has roughly 140 to 150 Midshipmen in it. Therefore, there are thirty Companies in the Brigade. See below for a more graphic representation (Companies are designated by a "C").

BRIGADE

1st Regiment

1st Battalion-------2nd Battalion------3rd Battalion
1C 2C 3C 4C 5C---6C 7C 8C 9C 10C---11C 12C 13C 14C 15C


2nd Regiment

4th Battalion--------------5th Battalion------------------6th Battalion
16C 17C 18C 19C 20C----21C 22C 23C 24C 25C--------26C 27C 28C 29C 30C


The 30 Companies are further broken down into Platoons, Squads, and Fire Teams. Typically, there are four (4) Platoons in each Company, comprised of three (3) Squads, which contain the smallest unit, called a Fire Team. Typically, a Fire Team is comprised of four (4) Midshipmen. A Squad is composed of one (1) Squad Leader and three (3) Fire Teams. See below for a more graphic representation (Fire Teams are designated by "FT").

1st Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

2nd Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

3rd Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

4th Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad--------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3
 
THParent said:
And for the really nerdy among us...

The Brigade of Midshipmen is limited to 4,400, which gives you four (4) average class sizes of 1,100 Midshipmen, each. The Brigade is then divided into two (2) Regiments of 2,200 Midshipmen each. Each of these Regiments is further divided into six (6) Battalions of five (5) Companies each. Each Company has roughly 140 to 150 Midshipmen in it. Therefore, there are thirty Companies in the Brigade. See below for a more graphic representation (Companies are designated by a "C").

BRIGADE

1st Regiment

1st Battalion-------2nd Battalion------3rd Battalion
1C 2C 3C 4C 5C---6C 7C 8C 9C 10C---11C 12C 13C 14C 15C


2nd Regiment

4th Battalion--------------5th Battalion------------------6th Battalion
16C 17C 18C 19C 20C----21C 22C 23C 24C 25C--------26C 27C 28C 29C 30C


The 30 Companies are further broken down into Platoons, Squads, and Fire Teams. Typically, there are four (4) Platoons in each Company, comprised of three (3) Squads, which contain the smallest unit, called a Fire Team. Typically, a Fire Team is comprised of four (4) Midshipmen. A Squad is composed of one (1) Squad Leader and three (3) Fire Teams. See below for a more graphic representation (Fire Teams are designated by "FT").

1st Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

2nd Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

3rd Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

4th Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad--------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3
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Couldn't have explained it better! Great diagrams!
 
THParent said:
And for the really nerdy among us...

The Brigade of Midshipmen is limited to 4,400, which gives you four (4) average class sizes of 1,100 Midshipmen, each. The Brigade is then divided into two (2) Regiments of 2,200 Midshipmen each. Each of these Regiments is further divided into six (6) Battalions of five (5) Companies each. Each Company has roughly 140 to 150 Midshipmen in it. Therefore, there are thirty Companies in the Brigade. See below for a more graphic representation (Companies are designated by a "C").

BRIGADE

1st Regiment

1st Battalion-------2nd Battalion------3rd Battalion
1C 2C 3C 4C 5C---6C 7C 8C 9C 10C---11C 12C 13C 14C 15C


2nd Regiment

4th Battalion--------------5th Battalion------------------6th Battalion
16C 17C 18C 19C 20C----21C 22C 23C 24C 25C--------26C 27C 28C 29C 30C


The 30 Companies are further broken down into Platoons, Squads, and Fire Teams. Typically, there are four (4) Platoons in each Company, comprised of three (3) Squads, which contain the smallest unit, called a Fire Team. Typically, a Fire Team is comprised of four (4) Midshipmen. A Squad is composed of one (1) Squad Leader and three (3) Fire Teams. See below for a more graphic representation (Fire Teams are designated by "FT").

1st Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

2nd Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

3rd Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad---------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3

4th Platoon
1st Squad--------------2nd Squad--------------3rd Squad
Squad Leader---------Squad Leader-----------Squad Leader
FT1 FT2 FT3 -----------FT1 FT2 FT3 -------------FT1 FT2 FT3
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Thank you for these graphs! It really helps me picture it. I honestly was totally confused before. This is all new to me. Is Fire Team meaning behind what it takes to put out a fire or fire a gun/cannon?
 
Usnavy2019 said:
Fun Fact:

When the Brigade CDR calls "Brigade" at Noon Meal Formation, they are only talking to 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Battalions. 3rd and 6th Battalions are in the back in Smoke Park.
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DS went from 3rd and shuffled into 6th so I have never seen him at formation. But if I'm there I watch anyways :cool:!!
 
Fire team thread: FWIW DS ('25) has never mentioned the Fire team only his squad and squad leader.

ProKnow thread: Some weeks are "easier" then the rest. Also I was always interested in the actual score for my DS the first few weeks and then it just fell to "did you pass so you don't need to do extra stuff"? Also of interest is that while an individual Plebe may score 100 the company or Batt may not pass in aggregate. Also I believe ProKnow scores may be used as part of the OOM calculations?
 
I would imagine that ProKnow test scores get added into the MOM and therefore do contribute (along with the AOM) to the OOM score.

Glossary:
Military Order of Merit (MOM)
Academic Order of Merit (AOM)
Overall Order of Merit (OOM)
:)
 
Parent1stTimer said:
Thank you for these graphs! It really helps me picture it. I honestly was totally confused before. This is all new to me. Is Fire Team meaning behind what it takes to put out a fire or fire a gun/cannon?
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Fire Team is the basic US Marine Corps formation and at its heart, it is an infantry combat "thing". For many years it was four people but over time, they have experimented with five and six for different purposes. The USMC fire team is led by a Corporal and includes one fire team leader along with three subordinate members, the automatic rifleman, the assistant automatic rifleman, and the rifleman.
 
Rarely27 said:
Interesting … thank you !
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As @ParachutePanda said, tests can be graded differently. Some training staffs may say an answer is correct when another one says it's not. A personal example was during Surface Warfare week, I said Marines was one of the weapons that an LHD (one of the types of amphibious assault ships) and it was counted as correct even though it wasn't specifically listed under the armament section. Other companies might mark that wrong.

Pro Know for Plebes will culminate in a PCA (Professional Competency Assessment). It is a formal oral exam with a random selection of upperclass. You get graded on your dress uniform, your bearing, and your knowledge. So if you have a good uniform and sound confident, but get the answer wrong, then you will walk way with most of the points for that question. Anything that is in the Pro Know book is fair game. This introduces them to what qualification boards will be like in the Fleet. Once they pass that, Pro Know is done for the year. This is in the March/April time frame.

3/C and 2/C Pro Know is a bunch of sign-offs and self study before taking a multiple choice exam in the spring semester. You have to get an 80 to pass and if you fail, you have mandatory study sessions for a bit and then you retake it. If you fail the retake, it affects your aptitude grade. 3/C Pro-Know is mostly focused on a more in-depth study of Navy and Marine Corps operational assets and some basic seamanship/leadership questions. 2/C Pro-Know is mostly personnel policies like paternity leave, Exceptional Family Member Program, etc. (stuff you should know about so you can take care of your Sailors/Marines).

1/C are considered to be adequately educated in the Pro-Know realm. They will usually help facilitate Pro-Know (i.e. give sign-offs), but they don't really have any formal professional educational requirements until spring semester where they have Practicum. Practicum is a course that prepares MIDN for service in their assigned community. Some selected topics are maneuvering boards and Rules of the Road for SWOs, cribbage lessons for Subs, weather and Pensacola bar recon for aviation, and five paragraph orders for those heading to the gun club (Marines). There is also a Restricted Line practicum, and ones for SEAL and EOD. I'm not too well versed on what they do for those though.
 
Son did his verbal make-up with his fire team. Said it was easy and was happy to get it done.

He did have "the board" this week with two others. Worked on it all yesterday afternoon/evening. They did the Talladega Nights poster with "If you aren't 4th, you're last!" tag on the poster with the platoon or company MIDN leaders as the characters (at least that is who I guessed they were).
 
TGIF!!
Does anyone knows Chemistry and Calculous class size? Just a conversation starter
 
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