ROTC Active duty/Reserves came out today.
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Like you posted on Oct 10, it sounds like he needs to pick his branches carefully. And it seems like BRADSO might help him.
I agree
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When do they start getting ranked? MS3 year?
Did he go to Basic camp or basic training. That's all the MS1 and 2 years is basic skills. At least at basic camp or BCT they fire weapons. Most MS1/MS2 never get to do a live fire till MS3 year.
He went to basic camp and then jumped into hi MS3 year. It was tough since there was no easing into it.
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This is my understanding of how it works. (Simplified)
1- after interviews, branches rank cadets in one of 3 groups - most preferred, preferred, least preferred
2 - cadets submit final order of branch preferences,
3 - cadets are ranked by OML within each of the three groups. This is the tie breaker that was mentioned. The “tie” is with everyone within a group (MP, P, LP) and not one or two individual cadets.
4- starting with the top of the OML, cadets are placed in the highest ranked branch for which they were put in the MP bucket. They go down the line doing the same for each cadet until a branch reaches its number. So it someone is MP and has infantry as their first choice, for example, but when they get to that cadet there are no infantry spots left, they then move to the next highest preferred branch that they were MP for and if that branch also isn’t available they keep moving down the order of preferred branches until they find a branch that still has remaining spots, and same down the line.
If all of the MP within a branch have been assigned somewhere and there are remaining branch spots, the P group will be looked at in OML order.
So, interviews are important because you can be low on the OML and still get put in a MP bucket but you will then be ranked within that bucket based on OML. Many of the branches award many more MPs than they have slots for so a low OML will still hurt you. But some branches, such as cyber, give out about the same number of MPs as they have available slots so if you are low on the OML but get a MP for cyber, you have a very good chance of getting it. There are a certain number of spots saved for BRADSO and once they are done slotting the regular branch slots they will take everyone who volunteered to BRADSO and move them to the top of their bucket, ahead of the remaining cadets who do not want to BRADSO.
This is my understanding of how it works. (Simplified)
1- after interviews, branches rank cadets in one of 3 groups - most preferred, preferred, least preferred
2 - cadets submit final order of branch preferences,
3 - cadets are ranked by OML within each of the three groups. This is the tie breaker that was mentioned. The “tie” is with everyone within a group (MP, P, LP) and not one or two individual cadets.
4- starting with the top of the OML, cadets are placed in the highest ranked branch for which they were put in the MP bucket. They go down the line doing the same for each cadet until a branch reaches its number. So it someone is MP and has infantry as their first choice, for example, but when they get to that cadet there are no infantry spots left, they then move to the next highest preferred branch that they were MP for and if that branch also isn’t available they keep moving down the order of preferred branches until they find a branch that still has remaining spots, and same down the line.
If all of the MP within a branch have been assigned somewhere and there are remaining branch spots, the P group will be looked at in OML order.
So, interviews are important because you can be low on the OML and still get put in a MP bucket but you will then be ranked within that bucket based on OML. Many of the branches award many more MPs than they have slots for so a low OML will still hurt you. But some branches, such as cyber, give out about the same number of MPs as they have available slots so if you are low on the OML but get a MP for cyber, you have a very good chance of getting it. There are a certain number of spots saved for BRADSO and once they are done slotting the regular branch slots they will take everyone who volunteered to BRADSO and move them to the top of their bucket, ahead of the remaining cadets who do not want to BRADSO.
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DMG is top 20% of all cadets, regardless of whether or not they are AD. My son’s class had 6 DMGs and 2 or 3 went reserves. DMGs seem to get earlier BOLC dates, but I don’t know for sure if that’s the case. My understanding is that the DMG designation stays on the military record for the entire career, but I don’t know if or how that is used down the road.
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MS3 Cadre here.
OML matters but isn't everything. Interviews, where you preference each branch, and where each branch also preferences the cadet also matters. This video is a pretty good explanation:
Complicating it more, some branches "most prefer" 2000 cadets but only have 200 slots to award, so it is hard to know where you sit unless you are top of the OML.
This is too late to help anyone branching this year as results are about to be released, but I imagine younger cadets and their families may come across this thread. Keep in mind, the process is always evolving.
OML matters but isn't everything. Interviews, where you preference each branch, and where each branch also preferences the cadet also matters. This video is a pretty good explanation:
Complicating it more, some branches "most prefer" 2000 cadets but only have 200 slots to award, so it is hard to know where you sit unless you are top of the OML.
This is too late to help anyone branching this year as results are about to be released, but I imagine younger cadets and their families may come across this thread. Keep in mind, the process is always evolving.
Where was Ordnance among his selections? And did he BRADSO? If so, did they use it? From what I understand, even if one BRADSOs, it's only used if necessary to get the desired branch.
It was his third choice with no BRADSO. He was most preferred for this branch.
He didn’t choose BRADSO at all or his 4th choice was with BRADSO? I didn’t think he could get a BRADSO if he didn’t put it as a choice.
You can't.
That's like hitting the lottery.
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