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OldRetSWO said:
Sadly it is not. The Navy followed right behind the Army on this and have the same issue.
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Am I permitted to check the ribbons and awards anymore? Camouflage uniforms are pretty “drab”. Service uniforms, especially shirts, less so. I’m not sure how we solve that one. Maybe do away with ribbons and awards all together? Or only wear them on the jackets? What about airborne and aviator wings on camouflage uniforms? I don’t want to be the one to tell my DD to remove her airborne wings. That I pinned on her uniform.
 
UHBlackhawk said:
Am I permitted to check the ribbons and awards anymore? Camouflage uniforms are pretty “drab”. Service uniforms, especially shirts, less so. I’m not sure how we solve that one. Maybe do away with ribbons and awards all together? Or only wear them on the jackets? What about airborne and aviator wings on camouflage uniforms? I don’t want to be the one to tell my DD to remove her airborne wings. That I pinned on her uniform.
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Your "check" glance will be evaluated for duration. An acceptable glance is less than one second and then you're expected to review the mental photograph of ribbons and insignia without changes in facial expression or other potentially sexist indications.

Now that you've forgotten what you read on the nametag, you are allowed a VERY brief eye movement to recheck nametag but the duration is limited to 500 milliseconds without perceptible head turn of any kind
 
I stopped correcting high school student's clothing violations years ago.

Me: Sally (not her real name) your shirt is inappropriate for school.
Sally: Why are you looking at my breasts?
Me: Never mind.

or,
Me: Michael (not his real name) pull up your pants.
Michael: Why are you picking on me, racist.
Me: Have a good day.
 
I always thought wearing rank on the chest was dumb anyhow. The Army started it and the Air Force followed - and made it even worse with “spice brown” colors than no one can read greater than five feet away. If you’re an officer, rank belongs on your collar. If you’re enlisted, it belongs on your sleeve. Period.
 
Tex232 said:
I always thought wearing rank on the chest was dumb anyhow. The Army started it and the Air Force followed - and made it even worse with “spice brown” colors than no one can read greater than five feet away. If you’re an officer, rank belongs on your collar. If you’re enlisted, it belongs on your sleeve. Period.
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I agree. It was that was for over a century, although the Army did have enlisted ranks on the collar as well.
But there are other items on the camouflage blouse. Surface warfare, sub, aviator, airborne wings, name.... do we remove that as well?
 
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I am going to take the titular position that everyone needs to be less uptight on both sides of this "issue" (which I don't believe it is).
Now let's get back to that all-important training to enable everyone in our military to visit swift and decisive violence upon our enemies.
You know, if we ever need that sort of thing.
 
THParent said:
I am going to take the titular position that everyone needs to be less uptight on both sides of this "issue" (which I don't believe it is).
Now let's get back to that all-important training to enable everyone in our military to visit swift and decisive violence upon our enemies.
You know, if we ever need that sort of thing.
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I have a feeling I'm going to have the "Banned" banner on my name soon.
 
The equivalent in the civilian world (in my experience anyway) is the darn lanyards and name plate you get at conventions. Depending on the length of the lanyard and the build of the individual it creates a scenario where everyone is looking at each other's chests rather than in the eyes. Kind of an accepted but awkward reality for some.
 
I don’t know whether to go for the 🍿 or the 🍷on this one. I had enough way-worse unwanted touch that transient awkwardness with this example has me torn. I’ll just start with the 🍷. Part of me appreciates people get that some things can be awkward and that this is well-meant, part of me says we should focus on other problems first.
 
AF6872 said:
"Tacking-On" your rank creates a whole new problem.:rofl:
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Most promotions I’ve been to they wear a service uniform so it goes on the shoulders.
Now pinning on airborne wings or other such awards can be more of a challenge.
 
Just wait, drill and ceremony will soon include a modified position of attention while holding your uniform on a hangar for inspection.

TSA figured out how to do pat-downs at the airport... this should be a non issue.
 
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