Swimming Recruiting Times

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  1. Swimmer14

    Swimmer14 Member

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    Does anybody know the recruiting time for a 50 and 100 freestyle in order to be recruited for swimming.
     
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    Jcc123 5-Year Member

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    As a general rule, and this goes for any timed sports, if you would be in a scoring position at conference, you're recruitable. Look at past results and see where you fall.
     
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    BDHuff09 5-Year Member

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    I'm not sure how valid this is for swimming. I swam in high school in a large suburban area and many of the people that scored in conference would not be in a position to be recruited by Navy. I would say that if you were top ten or 15 in an event for state then you would definitely be in good shape. The navy men's team is very competitive and has broken the top 25 several times in the last couple years.

    First off, you didn't specify if you were a male or female. I know a little bit more about the men's team but the women are good too.

    One of my old roommates was a swimmer. He walked on to the team with a sub 22 50 free (short course). I forget what his 100 time was. If I had to guess, they would be looking for freestylers with under a 48:00 in the 100 and probably 21:00 or under in 50 for males (short course). I'm not sure what the numbers would be for the women's team.

    Here is a website where you can look at some of the current commitments for USNA in swimming, both male & female. You can see what kind of times they have and the level of meets that they are swimming in. It also shows the swimmers all around rank in their specific state.

    https://www.collegeswimming.com/recruiting/commitments/?team=327
     
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    beantown31 Member

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    They told me u had to have 3 junior national times to even be considered for recruiting.
     
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    Jcc123 5-Year Member

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    You misunderstood my response. If you could score at Navy's conference meet, then you're generally recruitable - not at your high school's conference meet.
     
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    BDHuff09 5-Year Member

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    Ooooooh. I understand. That makes a lot of sense.
     
  7. Blessedmom

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    Usna has elite swim camp for USA swimmers, can attending that help you get looked at by navy coaches? Cost is expensive, think $950 for 5 days:(
     
  8. time2

    time2 10-Year Member

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    ^^ It won't make up for mediocre times in your events.
     
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  9. Swimmer14

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    How long do you have to achieve those times? Is it only up to your junior season or up to your senior season
     
  10. CA_USNAswimmer

    CA_USNAswimmer New Member

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    Generally, you should have the qualifying times before senior year because official recruiting trips take place early in your senior year. In addition, the coaches send out official visit invites late June.
     
  11. MAC_Daddy

    MAC_Daddy Rationalization is the enemy of excellence!

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    Generally speaking, <21.0 and <46.0 by end of Junior year will perk interest but to seal the deal with a Blue Chip, need to be quite a bit faster. Odds are the coach has prospective swimmers in mind. If you haven't already, reach out to Coach Roberts directly. NCAA rules are a little for SA's, so if you are a Jr they can call back. Also, look at Meet Mobile or Swim Swam for results of Patriot League And ECAC Conference results to see how competitive you are. To top it all off, academics and leadership outside the pool are exceedingly important to help define who you are! Good Luck!
     
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    swimmermama1 Member

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    The coach told my DS that you need at least 2 junior national cuts before they will take a look at you.
     
  13. Blessedmom

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    Wow so competitive! Being a USNA athlete is hard with military training classes & practice. Lots of work!
     
  14. ktnatalk

    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

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    Many swimmers are really good at the academy. They have swimmers who did tryouts for the olympics!
     
  15. Nikmo12

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    Hi! Late response but I just joined the forums and saw this. I've been told elsewhere about how you should be able to place in conference meets to be recruited, and that they seriously recruit people with 3 junior nat cuts.
    I like to look at the results of their conference meets to see how my times compare to the final results. https://www.collegeswimming.com/team/327/results/
    For example as a sophomore I can make some of the finals with my best on the 200 free with 1.43.04 or for the 100 free with a 47.11, for example. You can also see that its common for the finalists tend to add time for normal conference meets, so I take that into consideration. Also noticed at the meet against ARMY people are probably tapered and dropping time haha
     
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    Good morning all...I think I may have something to offer this conversation. I'm a former navy swimmer under Bill Roberts and I'll say that most of the posts above about needing times to be competitive to score at the conference championships are a pretty good indicator that you'll be recruited.

    When I was looking at Navy, I was on the navy sports website looking at meet results after every meet. I could tell you what the winning time was against Bucknell was the week prior in my events. In your self assessment, when you look at meet results be aware that besides the dual meet against Army and the conference championships all other meets are not tapered and the team typically did two full practices the day prior. Lastly, all home dual meets are swam in short course METERS so times are faster than they seem.

    Being recruited for the sprint events is challenging. Sometimes it's difficult to look into the future and see if a guy has peaked in high school simply because he grew faster and put on more muscle than the majority or whether he's truly gifted and will still have the benefits of growing to look forward to. Navy Swimming has improved dramatically under Bill. The incoming plebe class typically is one of the fastest because the recruits get better every year. Swimming is great but there are many great options of sports once you're there if NMSD doesn't work out for you. Good luck, study and train hard.
     
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    MAC_Daddy Rationalization is the enemy of excellence!

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    Our DS will be a Plebe swimmer this year. This is one of Coach Robert's strongest class ever. A handful are top 20 recruits in one or more of their events.
     
  18. Lazyboy

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    Is every swimmer on the team recruited? Or is there room for walk ons?
     
  19. BDHuff09

    BDHuff09 5-Year Member

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    Depending on how fast you are, the Coach might let you swim with the team during practice. My understanding is that you have to do that for a while and then if you get fast enough you might be allowed to officially walk on. I know 3 or 4 guys that have swam with the team unofficially for a period of time; none of them officially made the team. My old roommate was essentially a "preferred walk on", but he was fast an this was arranged before he came to the Academy. I would caution that they probably won't let you swim unless you're reasonably close time-wise to their standards, because otherwise you'd be in the way/waste of time.
     
  20. Nikmo12

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    Thats really helpful info thanks!
    I do have a few questions if you could answer it would be greatly appreciated. What events did you get recruited for and if you remember your time (for reference)? Did you contact the coach or did he contact you? If the coach is interested will that help with your chances of getting in?