USMAPS Appointments/Class Profile

I'm curious, how likely is it to be denied entrance into USMA but receive an appointment to MAPS at the same time? Like is there some margin between acceptance into the academy and complete denial of ones application? Also if anyone knows of where USMAPS class profiles like that of those found on the USMA website can be viewed that would be much appreciated.
Thanks
 

jllera1

Member
I'm curious, how likely is it to be denied entrance into USMA but receive an appointment to MAPS at the same time? Like is there some margin between acceptance into the academy and complete denial of ones application? Also if anyone knows of where USMAPS class profiles like that of those found on the USMA website can be viewed that would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Good questions. I would like to know too.
 

tug_boat

5-Year Member
USMAPS and USMA are two very different animals. An applicant does not apply to MAPS they must be recommended by the RC and you must be deemed academically DQ'd. There are no stats about class profile of USMAPS.

If you are considering a prep program, please look at the civilian prep resources that are available. NWP, NMMI, and other really good schools with good track records are available. Please research them to find your best fit.

Push Hard, Press Forward
 

jllera1

Member
Great info. Are those school prep school to then get into a SA or are they like a university that gives college credit. Do they take the AROTC scholarship?
 

tug_boat

5-Year Member
Great info. Are those school prep school to then get into a SA or are they like a university that gives college credit. Do they take the AROTC scholarship?
Some Prep Schools are college extensions others are not. NWP you study a semester in the mountains of California then you spend a semester at a local JC or college. MMI I didn't mention earlier has college credit. You just need to do your research and see if its a good option. Most of the kids who attend want to polish up to look better at attending a SA. They do not accept ROTC scholarships

Push Hard, Press Forward
 

jllera1

Member
Some Prep Schools are college extensions others are not. NWP you study a semester in the mountains of California then you spend a semester at a local JC or college. MMI I didn't mention earlier has college credit. You just need to do your research and see if its a good option. Most of the kids who attend want to polish up to look better at attending a SA. They do not accept ROTC scholarships

Push Hard, Press Forward
I understand. She is looking at The Citadel, since they take the ROTC scholarship, but we also think she may still get USMA or USMAPS. She is just working on securing Plan C and D.
 

SFRanger

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I'm curious, how likely is it to be denied entrance into USMA but receive an appointment to MAPS at the same time? Like is there some margin between acceptance into the academy and complete denial of ones application? Also if anyone knows of where USMAPS class profiles like that of those found on the USMA website can be viewed that would be much appreciated.
Thanks
We had a lot of questions about USMAPS when we were involved in the admissions process. No one seems to really come out and say it but USMAPS is a school located at West Point but it is in a separate location. USMAPS is offered to candidates that are athletes that are not academically qualified to attend West Point. They are normally legitimate D-1 athletes in their sports that the academy would like to admit but they are worried that they will not be academically successful. As a result, they give them a chance to go to USMAPS and they evaluate their readiness to take the classes at the academy. If they go there for a year and can not make the grades they are out.

On the converse there are also children that are exceptionally qualified both academically and physically but are in such competitive districts across the country that they still do not get in. Normally they will given these students an AOG scholarship and send them to one of the eight civilian military prep schools around the country. In both programs, if you go and get less than a "B" average academically you will probably not be offered an appointment in the following year. If you do get better than a "B" average your acceptance is virtually guaranteed (it is still not promised).

The point is that if you are "academically qualified" by the academy they will not offer you a USMAPS slot.
 
We have a CC at USMAPS currently. During our briefing we were told that about 50% of the class make up are recruited athletes. About 15% are prior enlisted. So that leaves 35% that are neither of those. That has since been confirmed by our CC. However, not all of those "athletes" are academically "unqualified". As SFRanger states, some were from "very competitive districts" in their home states and couldn't secure a nomination. Those, along with others who are not athletes, may be offered a spot USMAPS instead of a direct appointment if the admissions board, RC or FFR recommends one. Others are correct in stating that a CC is usually lacking in one area or another (physically, academically, leadership). The fact is that there are a variety of different reasons a CC may be offered an appointment to USMAPS and not a direct apointment to USMA and we CAN NOT lump them all into one general category. The primary reason they are there......to serve as an officer in the greatest army in the world. A USMA education, military and leadership training are second to none! The leadership there will tell you and your cadet: Academics 1st, Military training 2nd, Athletics 3rd. I'm sure a coach may tell them differently but IF you make it through USMAPS and accept an appointment "down the hill" you are committing to 12 more years total. So one aught to know what they are truly there for. BTW our CC was "academically qualified", not a recruit, and physically qualified as well? Only the academy knows why our CC wasn't a direct appointment but I am happy to say that our CC is more than grateful for the opportunity to attend USMAPS and feels more prepared for the plebe year coming up. Hope this helps clarify some things. Also, as for the history of USMAPS: it was originally meant as an avenue for enlisted folks to enter USMA and had nothing to do with athletics. Understand that it is the US Army's needs that dictate who gets offered a spot at the prep school and that changes year to year and so does the class profile. It is a personal decision but if offered it's a golden opportunity to attend USMAPS for a year of prep if the ultimate goal is USMA. PM me if you'd like to discuss in more detail our CC's experiences.
 

cptenca

Member
We have a CC at USMAPS currently. During our briefing we were told that about 50% of the class make up are recruited athletes. About 15% are prior enlisted. So that leaves 35% that are neither of those. That has since been confirmed by our CC. However, not all of those "athletes" are academically "unqualified". As SFRanger states, some were from "very competitive districts" in their home states and couldn't secure a nomination. Those, along with others who are not athletes, may be offered a spot USMAPS instead of a direct appointment if the admissions board, RC or FFR recommends one. Others are correct in stating that a CC is usually lacking in one area or another (physically, academically, leadership). The fact is that there are a variety of different reasons a CC may be offered an appointment to USMAPS and not a direct apointment to USMA and we CAN NOT lump them all into one general category. The primary reason they are there......to serve as an officer in the greatest army in the world. A USMA education, military and leadership training are second to none! The leadership there will tell you and your cadet: Academics 1st, Military training 2nd, Athletics 3rd. I'm sure a coach may tell them differently but IF you make it through USMAPS and accept an appointment "down the hill" you are committing to 12 more years total. So one aught to know what they are truly there for. BTW our CC was "academically qualified", not a recruit, and physically qualified as well? Only the academy knows why our CC wasn't a direct appointment but I am happy to say that our CC is more than grateful for the opportunity to attend USMAPS and feels more prepared for the plebe year coming up. Hope this helps clarify some things. Also, as for the history of USMAPS: it was originally meant as an avenue for enlisted folks to enter USMA and had nothing to do with athletics. Understand that it is the US Army's needs that dictate who gets offered a spot at the prep school and that changes year to year and so does the class profile. It is a personal decision but if offered it's a golden opportunity to attend USMAPS for a year of prep if the ultimate goal is USMA. PM me if you'd like to discuss in more detail our CC's experiences.
How dare you insert facts into a discussion based entirely upon conjecture.
 

DrMom

5-Year Member
Spartan asked this question in 2017.
JLera1's daughter is Class of 2021.
Not sure what happened to Spartan.
 
We have a CC at USMAPS currently. During our briefing we were told that about 50% of the class make up are recruited athletes. About 15% are prior enlisted. So that leaves 35% that are neither of those. That has since been confirmed by our CC. However, not all of those "athletes" are academically "unqualified". As SFRanger states, some were from "very competitive districts" in their home states and couldn't secure a nomination. Those, along with others who are not athletes, may be offered a spot USMAPS instead of a direct appointment if the admissions board, RC or FFR recommends one. Others are correct in stating that a CC is usually lacking in one area or another (physically, academically, leadership). The fact is that there are a variety of different reasons a CC may be offered an appointment to USMAPS and not a direct apointment to USMA and we CAN NOT lump them all into one general category. The primary reason they are there......to serve as an officer in the greatest army in the world. A USMA education, military and leadership training are second to none! The leadership there will tell you and your cadet: Academics 1st, Military training 2nd, Athletics 3rd. I'm sure a coach may tell them differently but IF you make it through USMAPS and accept an appointment "down the hill" you are committing to 12 more years total. So one aught to know what they are truly there for. BTW our CC was "academically qualified", not a recruit, and physically qualified as well? Only the academy knows why our CC wasn't a direct appointment but I am happy to say that our CC is more than grateful for the opportunity to attend USMAPS and feels more prepared for the plebe year coming up. Hope this helps clarify some things. Also, as for the history of USMAPS: it was originally meant as an avenue for enlisted folks to enter USMA and had nothing to do with athletics. Understand that it is the US Army's needs that dictate who gets offered a spot at the prep school and that changes year to year and so does the class profile. It is a personal decision but if offered it's a golden opportunity to attend USMAPS for a year of prep if the ultimate goal is USMA. PM me if you'd like to discuss in more detail our CC's experiences.
How dare you insert facts into a discussion based entirely upon conjecture.
:)
 
We have a CC at USMAPS currently. During our briefing we were told that about 50% of the class make up are recruited athletes. About 15% are prior enlisted. So that leaves 35% that are neither of those. That has since been confirmed by our CC. However, not all of those "athletes" are academically "unqualified". As SFRanger states, some were from "very competitive districts" in their home states and couldn't secure a nomination. Those, along with others who are not athletes, may be offered a spot USMAPS instead of a direct appointment if the admissions board, RC or FFR recommends one. Others are correct in stating that a CC is usually lacking in one area or another (physically, academically, leadership). The fact is that there are a variety of different reasons a CC may be offered an appointment to USMAPS and not a direct apointment to USMA and we CAN NOT lump them all into one general category. The primary reason they are there......to serve as an officer in the greatest army in the world. A USMA education, military and leadership training are second to none! The leadership there will tell you and your cadet: Academics 1st, Military training 2nd, Athletics 3rd. I'm sure a coach may tell them differently but IF you make it through USMAPS and accept an appointment "down the hill" you are committing to 12 more years total. So one aught to know what they are truly there for. BTW our CC was "academically qualified", not a recruit, and physically qualified as well? Only the academy knows why our CC wasn't a direct appointment but I am happy to say that our CC is more than grateful for the opportunity to attend USMAPS and feels more prepared for the plebe year coming up. Hope this helps clarify some things. Also, as for the history of USMAPS: it was originally meant as an avenue for enlisted folks to enter USMA and had nothing to do with athletics. Understand that it is the US Army's needs that dictate who gets offered a spot at the prep school and that changes year to year and so does the class profile. It is a personal decision but if offered it's a golden opportunity to attend USMAPS for a year of prep if the ultimate goal is USMA. PM me if you'd like to discuss in more detail our CC's experiences.
We got a letter of rejection today to USMA but we somewhat expected that would happen, and honestly we were all hoping for a offer to USMAPS as we felt this would be the best fit. The rejection letter mentioned nothing about USMAPS but just encouraged us to continue through the ROTC. We don’t know if this means USMAPS is off the table or should we hold our hope an offer from them may come eventually?

Is the rejection letter meant to close the door on all options except ROTC? My sons SAT scores were on the lower side and we were told he’d be a prime candidate for USMAPS but just really unsure how this process works and what to expect. Please help!!!
 
Was your DS deemed 3Q? If so, USMAPS is not an option. Only those found academically unqualified are eligible for USMAPS. unless it's an athlete and in that case I do not know what rules do or do not apply.
 
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