What are my Chances

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So I'm a junior right now in a high school that historically sends many cadets to service academies. I have a 3.03 GPA right now but it's about to be at a 3.3. I'm currently all A's. I have no sports but compete in my JROTC PT team. I am also a 1Lt in the program and a part of our Raider Team and Ceremonial Color Guard. In addition, I am an E-3 in the National Guard as well as President of the Youth Entrepreneurship Society in my school and have been for 2 years. A chairman of the Mayors Youth Council where I also intern at his office. Finally, I'm A chairperson with the title Ambassador in my Student Council. I also have 113 Community Service hours if that means anything.

(Edit): I can also not attend SLE or boys state due to basic training this summer but my Field Force Rep said that's it looks better than either of those is this true?
 
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GPA on a 4.0 or 5.0 scale? Class rank? AP classes? SAT score? These are all things you need to think about. EC's look good. Just keep it up. Train for and nail the CFA. Study and prepare for interviews. Do everything you can to be the best you. Make the academy say no.
 
So I'm a junior right now in a high school that historically sends many cadets to service academies. I have a 3.03 GPA right now but it's about to be at a 3.3. I'm currently all A's. I have no sports but compete in my JROTC PT team. I am also a 1Lt in the program and a part of our Raider Team and Ceremonial Color Guard. In addition, I am an E-3 in the National Guard as well as President of the Youth Entrepreneurship Society in my school and have been for 2 years. A chairman of the Mayors Youth Council where I also intern at his office. Finally, I'm A chairperson with the title Ambassador in my Student Council. I also have 113 Community Service hours if that means anything.
Nobody can give you a definitive answer to your question, but you’re heading the right direction. Focus on those leadership positions because they will allow you to mature and benefit you at the academies. Your GPA is a bit low. Taking AP, adv., IP, etc can boost your GPA and will prepare your for the rigorous academics. Lastly, I didn’t see any sports in your post, but training hard for your CFA is critical. DO NOT PUSH THE CFA OFF!!!! I did that and ended up getting a stress fracture on my femur. XC and track are also good options to keep your endurance up. Best of Luck!
 
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GPA on a 4.0 or 5.0 scale? Class rank? AP classes? SAT score? These are all things you need to think about. EC's look good. Just keep it up. Train for and nail the CFA. Study and prepare for interviews. Do everything you can to be the best you. Make the academy say no.
4.0 scale, 271 of 434, taking 4 AP classes It's not the best but steadily improving I haven't taken the ACT or SAT Yet but I took the practice one my school gave and I made a 28. I'm signed for 2 ACTs
 
Nobody can give you a definitive answer to your question, but you’re heading the right direction. Focus on those leadership positions because they will allow you to mature and benefit you at the academies. Your GPA is a bit low. Taking AP, adv., IP, etc can boost your GPA and will prepare your for the rigorous academics. Lastly, I didn’t see any sports in your post, but training hard for your CFA is critical. DO NOT PUSH THE CFA OFF!!!! I did that and ended up getting a stress fracture on my femur. XC and track are also good options to keep your endurance up. Best of Luck!
Thank you! That is correct. I haven't picked up any sports, but I am training for cross country to join senior year, hoping it will help. I also posted stuff about the AP classes I'm taking in another post, but the list is AP LANG AP LIT AP EURO HIST, and AP Human Geography
 
Sounds good. Just make sure you are able to handle the course load. It’s better to take regular classes and get As than to take APs and get Cs and Ds
 
So I'm a junior right now in a high school that historically sends many cadets to service academies. I have a 3.03 GPA right now but it's about to be at a 3.3. I'm currently all A's. I have no sports but compete in my JROTC PT team. I am also a 1Lt in the program and a part of our Raider Team and Ceremonial Color Guard. In addition, I am an E-3 in the National Guard as well as President of the Youth Entrepreneurship Society in my school and have been for 2 years. A chairman of the Mayors Youth Council where I also intern at his office. Finally, I'm A chairperson with the title Ambassador in my Student Council. I also have 113 Community Service hours if that means anything.

(Edit): I can also not attend SLE or boys state due to basic training this summer but my Field Force Rep said that's it looks better than either of those is this true?
Being totally honest, you can never really know your chances. Best thing you can do is try your best to improve your marketability to colleges and Services Academies. This includes but not limited to, maintaining good grades, good standardized test scores, good and relevant extracurricular activities, and solid interviews.

Do not worry about your chances, as nobody knows unless they directly collaborate with the admission process and because it will not improve them. Best of luck, I hope you continue to strive for greatness
 
So I'm a junior right now in a high school that historically sends many cadets to service academies. I have a 3.03 GPA right now but it's about to be at a 3.3. I'm currently all A's. I have no sports but compete in my JROTC PT team. I am also a 1Lt in the program and a part of our Raider Team and Ceremonial Color Guard. In addition, I am an E-3 in the National Guard as well as President of the Youth Entrepreneurship Society in my school and have been for 2 years. A chairman of the Mayors Youth Council where I also intern at his office. Finally, I'm A chairperson with the title Ambassador in my Student Council. I also have 113 Community Service hours if that means anything.

(Edit): I can also not attend SLE or boys state due to basic training this summer but my Field Force Rep said that's it looks better than either of those is this true?
Just wanted to confirm if you are a split-option soldier in the Guard? As an enlisted soldier, you have a very strong edge in admissions for the academy, but your academics are still VERY important if you want to go in directly - I took a path very similar to yours (now at USMAPS) so reach out if you have any questions.
Your enlistment, leadership/clubs, and fitness seem strong (I'm guessing based on being on the PT Team), but your academics are low. The key for you is to do very well on the ACT/SAT and train very well for the CFA.
 
So I'm a junior right now in a high school that historically sends many cadets to service academies. I have a 3.03 GPA right now but it's about to be at a 3.3. I'm currently all A's. I have no sports but compete in my JROTC PT team. I am also a 1Lt in the program and a part of our Raider Team and Ceremonial Color Guard. In addition, I am an E-3 in the National Guard as well as President of the Youth Entrepreneurship Society in my school and have been for 2 years. A chairman of the Mayors Youth Council where I also intern at his office. Finally, I'm A chairperson with the title Ambassador in my Student Council. I also have 113 Community Service hours if that means anything.

(Edit): I can also not attend SLE or boys state due to basic training this summer but my Field Force Rep said that's it looks better than either of those is this true?
Your junior year will be very important. My son did not have the highest GPA after his first two years of high school (probably a 3.1 or 3.2 unweighted) but like you did very well junior year and senior year (one B, rest A's). His school did not have JROTC but he had sports (4 captain years), Model UN (president), and community service weekly with a local non-profit and taught CCD for four years. You have what I would consider equal EC but yours is more military related which is great! West Point offered him a civilian prep scholarship and he is at Georgia Military College and received his appointment last month. My point is to be open and vocal about if you are willing to do a prep year. Like him, you may not be a candidate for USMAPS but all of the prep students at GMC are going to WP Class of 2026 (12 of them). If West Point is what you want let your field force, the congressional committees who interview you, and your liaison at WP know you are willing to do a prep year. My son was also offered 4yr ROTC scholarships for our two state schools (Penn State and Pitt) but ultimately chose the prep year. He is very happy that he did the prep year for "extra" classes before the vigor of WP. Just something to consider!
 
Your junior year will be very important. My son did not have the highest GPA after his first two years of high school (probably a 3.1 or 3.2 unweighted) but like you did very well junior year and senior year (one B, rest A's). His school did not have JROTC but he had sports (4 captain years), Model UN (president), and community service weekly with a local non-profit and taught CCD for four years. You have what I would consider equal EC but yours is more military related which is great! West Point offered him a civilian prep scholarship and he is at Georgia Military College and received his appointment last month. My point is to be open and vocal about if you are willing to do a prep year. Like him, you may not be a candidate for USMAPS but all of the prep students at GMC are going to WP Class of 2026 (12 of them). If West Point is what you want let your field force, the congressional committees who interview you, and your liaison at WP know you are willing to do a prep year. My son was also offered 4yr ROTC scholarships for our two state schools (Penn State and Pitt) but ultimately chose the prep year. He is very happy that he did the prep year for "extra" classes before the vigor of WP. Just something to consider!
Thank you for that pretty solid advice. I've looked into a few of the prep schools already, and they were defiantly one of the backup plans
 
Just wanted to confirm if you are a split-option soldier in the Guard? As an enlisted soldier, you have a very strong edge in admissions for the academy, but your academics are still VERY important if you want to go in directly - I took a path very similar to yours (now at USMAPS) so reach out if you have any questions.
Your enlistment, leadership/clubs, and fitness seem strong (I'm guessing based on being on the PT Team), but your academics are low. The key for you is to do very well on the ACT/SAT and train very well for the CFA.
I am a split-ops currently, yes. How do I find out who my CO is in my RSP unit? I've asked my RSP NCO to speak to him or pass along a message, but I've heard nothing. I assume I need something from him to go WP and my FFR also wanted to speak to them.
 
I am a split-ops currently, yes. How do I find out who my CO is in my RSP unit? I've asked my RSP NCO to speak to him or pass along a message, but I've heard nothing. I assume I need something from him to go WP and my FFR also wanted to speak to them.
Not many people will know just how the process works for Split-Ops seeking USMA admission and it may confuse your unit too, but know it is very possible and that many Cadets and Cadet Candidates at USMAPS are Split Ops, including myself.

With that said, you MUST excel at Basic Combat Training, your RSP unit MUST agree to both release your from the Guard (NGB 22 and DD368 forms), and MUST nominate you with the Commander's Assessment found in your portal. You need to take the initiative and inform your NCOs and Company Commander of your interest in USMA and that you need a nomination. Be polite, persistent, and patient - they have no obligation to release you at all (it costs around $60,000 to training a single soldier at BCT), so prove to them you are officer material. Continue politely pressing your NCOs that you need to meet with the Company Commander (typically your Captain) to receive a commander's nomination after graduating BCT. In my own case for example, I notified my NCOs of my desire to attend USMA and asked them what I can do to EARN their approval and nomination. They expected that I excel as a soldier, set the example for my RSP, and graduate BCT; after graduating BCT and returning for my Senior year, my CPT interviewed me, and I received a nomination and my release from the Guard to Active Duty.
 
Not many people will know just how the process works for Split-Ops seeking USMA admission and it may confuse your unit too, but know it is very possible and that many Cadets and Cadet Candidates at USMAPS are Split Ops, including myself.

With that said, you MUST excel at Basic Combat Training, your RSP unit MUST agree to both release your from the Guard (NGB 22 and DD368 forms), and MUST nominate you with the Commander's Assessment found in your portal. You need to take the initiative and inform your NCOs and Company Commander of your interest in USMA and that you need a nomination. Be polite, persistent, and patient - they have no obligation to release you at all (it costs around $60,000 to training a single soldier at BCT), so prove to them you are officer material. Continue politely pressing your NCOs that you need to meet with the Company Commander (typically your Captain) to receive a commander's nomination after graduating BCT. In my own case for example, I notified my NCOs of my desire to attend USMA and asked them what I can do to EARN their approval and nomination. They expected that I excel as a soldier, set the example for my RSP, and graduate BCT; after graduating BCT and returning for my Senior year, my CPT interviewed me, and I received a nomination and my release from the Guard to Active Duty.
Thank you! Just a lot of waiting, for now.
 
Given your middle of the road standing on GPA and class rank, you should focus heavily on excelling on the SAT to give your academic profile a boost. All of the work you are putting in with JROTC and the National Guard will reflect highly on you. It appears you are on track for senior leadership in your JROTC next year which is good.

As for your edit question at the end of your post, I would recommend you take the advice of your Field Force rep over the random and wide ranging views that you could find on the forum. The Field Force rep would not have given you that advice if it was not true.
 
Given your middle of the road standing on GPA and class rank, you should focus heavily on excelling on the SAT to give your academic profile a boost. All of the work you are putting in with JROTC and the National Guard will reflect highly on you. It appears you are on track for senior leadership in your JROTC next year which is good.

As for your edit question at the end of your post, I would recommend you take the advice of your Field Force rep over the random and wide ranging views that you could find on the forum. The Field Force rep would not have given you that advice if it was not true.
Definitely second this. Receiving outstanding standardized test scores can make up for a few academic mishaps in your high school career. If you have the means and opportunity, try to work with a professional tutor and take every ACT/SAT available (personally, I took the ACT 6 times in total before I felt comfortable with my score).

Additionally, the sports situation is still something that you have some time to work on. Joining Cross Country is a great idea and possibly mentioning that you will be doing a sport like Track in the spring of your senior year may give you some points in the athletics section.
 
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