Why your work is "Military"

Awesome post LITS :thumb: 100% agree


Can we get any answers from the other branches? I really am curious.
 
LineInTheSand said:
Right. Many people, as have already done, spout off the mission of their service or core values....same ole same ole. Reason for this....dig deeper.
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I cited that because it answered the question you asked in the first post. The question you want us to answer is not the question you posed. You asked "Whether it be Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force or Coast Guard; what makes your service "military"."

It seems that what you really want to know is why branches exist when they have overlapping capabilities, or why the military is segmented at all and not a monolithic force where all capabilities fall under one structure.

As for the Army, you'd be hard pressed to make a case against the existence of a land combat force. It's pretty much the one you must have as a nation, as the endstate of all protracted and intense conflicts is the seizure of territory. You'd have a much easier time arguing against the existence of a Marine Corps, as their forced-entry capabilities can be duplicated by the Army (and in most cases are) with the exception of fixed-wing close air support.

I understand your point about what the Coast Guard does. But I don't think you answered your own question. The essential question is not "What does the Coast Guard do?" but rather "Why could the Navy not be structured to do much of it as well?" (Posse comitatus noted).

Really, the answer in the case of the U.S. military is simply..."because"
 
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It seems that what you really want to know is why branches exist when they have overlapping capabilities, or why the military is segmented at all and not a monolithic force where all capabilities fall under one structure.
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Also, tradition is important in the military. In addition, could you imagine just having one huge army? The army is disorganized as it is- if it was bigger it would be even more disorganized. Having different branches that specialize in specific areas minimizes confusion. Also, it is easier to get the specific training for the job you want through your specific service than it would be trying to coordinate through the entire military.
Note: I am not in any of military services so take what I say with a grain of salt!
 
Scoutpilot, I think that the Army is disorganized because people are continually sent to the wrong bases for training/ shipments of equipment are mysteriously "lost", etc. I have nothing against the Army, incidents like I mentioned above happen whenever there are large groups of people moving different places.
 
smile said:
Scoutpilot, I think that the Army is disorganized because people are continually sent to the wrong bases for training/ shipments of equipment are mysteriously "lost", etc. I have nothing against the Army, incidents like I mentioned above happen whenever there are large groups of people moving different places.
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I guess I've missed all these huge and "continual" screw-ups in my almost 7 years of service.

What evidence has led you to this conclusion? Do you have personal experience or empirical evidence to support this accusation?
 
Smile- I think that you are mistaking popular legend with reality. From my experience the Army was fairly efficient- certainly no less efficient than the large (200,000+ employee) multinational that I am working for now and in areas like preventive and predictive maintenance programs (critical spare parts inventories on key pieces of equipment in a logistics or manufacturing organization) - the Army does a far better job than the corporate world does. Every big organization has a foul up or two- as does every small one, but the Army is not really that much like Beetle Bailey.
 
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Hey guys, I didn't mean to offend you! Most of the information is from my Father's stories about his service (so mostly old information). He got sent to incorrect bases, etc.
Once again- I am NOT saying that things could have changed from 20 years ago, and thanks for serving in our military.
And, Scoutpilot, the word "continual" should not be in quotation marks seeing as how I did not use that word in my post.
 
smile said:
Hey guys, I didn't mean to offend you! Most of the information is from my Father's stories about his service (so mostly old information). He got sent to incorrect bases, etc.
Once again- I am NOT saying that things could have changed from 20 years ago, and thanks for serving in our military.
And, Scoutpilot, the word "continual" should not be in quotation marks seeing as how I did not use that word in my post.
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The quotes denote the characterization of the problem as a continual one, based on the use of the word "continually" in your post.

For future reference, popping into a discussion and characterizing an entire military service as "disorganized" is going to ruffle feathers.
 
LineInTheSand said:
I'm still not seeing a difference here....both adhere to UCMJ. A fairly common cited difference, the U.S. Coast Guard is not constrained by posse comitatus.
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It was answering what makes the military (specifically MPs) from cops.
 
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