Now, after much work was put into this vs. resolving it quickly... TPG was exposed and I'm questioned about my presence here. We're here to offer suggestions to how this can be prevented in the future. Some may call them "demands", sure, but we believe we're in a position of strength and have some bargaining power.
In essence the way I read it is you are holding this site for hostage.
I get your position, truly I do, but I disagree with your method of creating fear now among posters. To recap, and please correct me if I am wrong you want the following to be completed by the owner of this site:
1) Remove posting restrictions placed on the account of Justin Facts
2) Place a disclaimer on the front page of SAF *prominently* stating that you are NOT affiliated with any US Service Academy, US Government, Department of Defense, nor is there any implied endorsement
3) Remove all posts by member 'tpg', including all archives
4) Appropriately address the security and PII violations with your forum and post a security policy that outlines your procedures to ensure their privacy
Now here is my question for you: Is this site violating any law? If so, which ones and what are those laws?
If not than the way I see it is SAF is TN's baby and he has the right to raise it the way he chooses. IE. If you say that they are not according to a law that a disclaimer must be placed, than I think you are in the right, but if it is not than impo it would be the equivalent of telling a parent that they must send their child to pre-school.
~ Good suggestion, but by law you can't enforce it.
I am kind of awe struck at all of this. In almost a decade of being around, and only 1 poster that was a poser out of over 20K, you have decided to make it an all attack on this site. JMPO, and with $ 2.07 you can get a small cup of coffee at Starbucks, this has more to do with your anger/issues with TN. You have decided to draw a line in the sand and if the members here pay the price, so be it, not your fault in your mind. In your eyes TN did it.
~ FWIW, in my eyes and mind, it was your fault. I wouldn't blame TN at all.
Finally in response to this post:
this forum seems to have members that treat it more like a social club than an advisory forum for prospective SA candidates. There is no rank here, but some seem to feel that by nature of their post and point numbers, they have the right to be ugly, mean-spirited and unfair to other members and especially new ones. There may be some history between some of you but when you resort to a low level of discourse it tends to make everyone feel uncomfortable. Where is the responsibility to the younger folks to show them professional communication vs. have the equivalent of an adult food fight?
1. Social club:
~ Many of us have created friendships.
~~ OMG kill us for laughing and joking around with each other! As you know the military life is unique. Many of these posters don't have friends or family that understands this life.
~~~ I indeed am proud to be part of it. I have had posters celebrate holidays with my family because they show up in this area and can't go home for the holidays, instead they come to my home.
~~ CC is known here to be at Thudgate.
2. Mean and ugly
~ Kind of funny that you say that. If I read your posts right aren't you being mean and ugly to this site and their members with that post? Did you not try to pick off posters here with the lure of media attention to go against TN and this site?
3. Low level of discourse
~ Seeing as I am probably one of those people you are talking about, I can say and swear on my Myrtle that I have seen them do the following:
~~ Fair warning folks stop the personal attacks, if you don't we will lock the thread.
~~~ Followed with this thread has run its' course and is now officially locked. Only happened last week on the SA parents FB thread.
4. Showing professionalism vs food fight to younger posters:
~ See above.
~~ The funny thing is if you have lurked on the USAFA forum you would see references to baseops.net. Please do me a favor check it out. They have a ROTC forum there. So while you are up in that ivory tower looking down, maybe you should see this is a very kind site and spoon feeds posters compared to other sites. Heck, have you started to investigate baseops.net for their posers or is it just SAF that you have it in for?
Now finally, my personal story and why I believe in this site and TN. Years ago, a poster personally attacked in a pm. They suggested that we should do the honorable thing like Admiral Boorda. Google him. Imagine opening a pm and reading that! I pm'd the mods, and received a pm from TN apologizing for that pain. He was banned immediately. He came back, and shortly after people put 2+2 together and banned again. He tried again for a 3 rd time, and immediately banned.
All that keeps running through my mind is WHY? If we all moved on over this subject why do you honestly care? You have stated you have no child attempting to attend an SA or ROTC. We have no problem with no disclaimer. Heck, most posters, me included will start a response that we do not sit on any board. I doubt anyone thinks there is any connection.
~ You know what I am now going to start a poll to see if I am right.
TN and mods, you asked on the community feedback about this new set up compared to the old. I think you might want to go back to the green, yellow and red dot next to the posters name.