A1Janitor
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The one I saw was recent.I found it
July 2023 polling and nothing to do with this attack.
When I see it again, I will share it.
Look at the demonstrations around the world.
The one I saw was recent.I found it
July 2023 polling and nothing to do with this attack.
What you saw was a very recent and thus misleading headline. The poll done by the Washington Institute was done in July.The one I saw was recent.
When I see it again, I will share it.
Look at the demonstrations around the world.
I am not sure how you know what I read. Nor am I sure why it matters. I am quite certain the poll was done recently - I believe they talked about support for what they did.What you saw was a very recent and thus misleading headline. The poll done by the Washington Institute was done in July.
I don't know the %, but that was my understanding. I believe Israel disengaged from Gaza in 2005 and Hamas was elected in 2007.
From WIKII am not the expert here, but I believe Fatah (the former PLO) controls the West Bank. Hamas took over Gaza from them. To say the situation is complicated is an understatement.
I am suggesting you are pointing to a July poll , that you said you only saw the headline, that you think was done last week, a poll you claim must have been put into the field and done during a period of major urban combat including bombing from the air.I am not sure how you know what I read. Nor am I sure why it matters. I am quite certain the poll was done recently - I believe they talked about support for what they did.
Are you suggesting the support for Hamas is different today than it was in July?
I am suggesting you are pointing to a July poll , that you said you only saw the headline, that you think was done last week, a poll you claim must have been put into the field and done during a period of major urban combat including bombing from the air.
Do a search it’s the first thing that pops up is the July poll done by the Washington Institute , with the misleading headline, with the same % in the headline you had read in your headline. .
I am just pointing out you are wrong. It’s not a big deal.
The number went up from 57% and is higher in the article.Polls Show Majority of Gazans Were Against Breaking Ceasefire; Hamas and Hezbollah Unpopular Among Key Arab Publics
Recent Washington Institute polls have tracked Gazans’ views on Hamas and the ceasefire with Israel, along with a wider regional decline in popularity for Hamas and Hezbollah.www.washingtoninstitute.org
Now take a few minutes and find a similar poll with the exact same 57% that was done last week during a raging battle.
Lmfao.I try not to argue with anyone that touts q as a good source of accurate info. But I await you posting your proof.
Accuracy like honesty matters
Friend let’s let this drop until post the article you found just last night , that you claim you did not read, but did read the headline, that had that 57% approval rate. That you claim was not done in JulyLmfao.
I am not honest? I am not accurate?
I tout q?
Because I didn’t buy the russian hoax? Because I don’t believe MSM? Because I didn’t believe the laptop was russian disinformation? Because I didn’t believe masks or vaccines work? Because I didn’t believe there was a Russian hit placed on American soldiers in Afghanistan? Because I think our border should be closed? Because I think politicians in our country profited off of Ukraine corruption?
We can agree to disagree.
I didn’t read the article - it was a main news site posting it. Like ABC.
Christian Science Monitor has a piece from a few days ago that discusses it.
Because I don’t believe MSM?
It seems as though you do believe the MSM so long as it supports your narrative.Does this information get in the way of some narrative you have?
I saw it two days ago. If I saw it last night it would have been easier to retrieve.Friend let’s let this drop until post the article you found just last night , that you claim you did not read, but did read the headline, that had that 57% approval rate. That you claim was not done in July
Your q as a good source of inside info posts can be easily found
Now before the mods get involved I am done but look forward to you posting your proof.
What’s my narrative?It seems as though you do believe the MSM so long as it supports your narrative.
Words, timing, and intent matter. To my mind, anyone choosing to demonstrate for an anti-Israel position at this moment in time may be exposing a deeply rooted anti-Semitic view. I would consider the nature of the protest, the particular words used, the timing as all being important. Anything that overtly attacks Israel in the face of what it just suffered is not just pro-Palestinian. But, you saw what you saw. And, apparently, you did not see the evil intent in the timing of the demonstration. I, for one, will view your future posts with a degree of skepticism.The demonstrations on the campus at which I work were pro-Palestinian, not pro-Hamas.
If you claim you only read the headlines I am not sure that equates to believing the MSM or not.It seems as though you do believe the MSM so long as it supports your narrative.
If you claim you only read the headlines I am not sure that equates to believing the MSM or not.
I do hope to be proven wrong. I can’t wait to see a poll that was done since the attack of a few days ago , in a city that had its power shut off and bombs raining down, and has already been discussed extensively in the MSM..
I know pollsters have a rough job getting people to answer questions. But dogging bombs as you ask questions in a survey on attitudes——those brave pollsters id love to read about.
We’re going to have to disagree to disagree.Words, timing, and intent matter. To my mind, anyone choosing to demonstrate for an anti-Israel position at this moment in time may be exposing a deeply rooted anti-Semitic view. I would consider the nature of the protest, the particular words used, the timing as all being important. Anything that overtly attacks Israel in the face of what it just suffered is not just pro-Palestinian. But, you saw what you saw. And, apparently, you did not see the evil intent in the timing of the demonstration. I, for one, will view your future posts with a degree of skepticism.
I don't know where these incidents are taking place but here in the NYC metro area which by the way has the largest concentration of Jews in the US, literally all of the on campus demonstrations that have been widely reported are pro-palestinian. The university where I teach has many Arab including Palestinian students but (thankfully) there have been no demonstrations by either side. Actually, I'm more nervous for our (few) identifiably Jewish students as there have been numerous anti-semitic incidents in recent years at a number of colleges in the area. Over the same time, I can't recall a single on campus anti-Muslim/anti-Palestinian incident even in the area with the largest concentration of Jews.Anecdotally, there’s of an uptick in anti-Palestinian harassment with students, similar in feel (if not extent) to what many Muslim friends of mine experienced at college post-9/11. I don’t think that students choosing to hold a peaceful demonstration to try to provide their perspective and encourage peaceful dialogue is wildly inappropriate (or evil). I think it is primarily driven in response to the blowback they are experiencing here. They are responding the best way they know how, at this point in their lives, to the environment they’re now facing.
This is DC metro area… What I am hearing from (some) of our students is that what they are experiencing is not believed to be coming from Jewish students. And it’s not physical attacks on students or property - everything I’ve heard about has been verbal. There has been significant/visible police presence as a result of the demonstrations.I don't know where these incidents are taking place but here in the NYC metro area which by the way has the largest concentration of Jews in the US, literally all of the on campus demonstrations that have been widely reported are pro-palestinian. The university where I teach has many Arab including Palestinian students but (thankfully) there have been no demonstrations by either side. Actually, I'm more nervous for our (few) identifiably Jewish students as there have been numerous anti-semitic incidents in recent years at a number of colleges in the area. Over the same time, I can't recall a single on campus anti-Muslim/anti-Palestinian incident even in the area with the largest concentration of Jews.