2016 Class Statistics

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  1. usafamomma

    usafamomma Member

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    Hi All,

    In previous years, shortly after inprocessing we would hear info about the current class...like the # of cadets that boarded the busses, the # of cadets that got off the bus, the # of males, # of females, average gpa, # of varsity athletes, boy scouts etc etc etc. I've seen nothing official except that the AFA was shooting for 1050 cadets and that about 1035 inprocessed.

    Does anyone have any information to share?

    Thanks and enjoy the roller coaster ride :)))
     
  2. icarus

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    If you were at the swearing-in ceremony or see pictures of the cadets. Each squadron should have approximately 100 each squadron to total 1,000+. Noticed how some squadrons had less than a hundred. According to my DS, there's already 3 in his flight that out-processed or didn't "get off that damned bus".
     
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  3. Jsig2016

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    That's interesting. I wish there was some sort of late in-processing. I would've loved to take their spot. Oh well, too late now. My best wishes to the Class of 2016!
     
  4. AVT

    AVT USAFA 2015

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    This is all I could find:

    23% of class are women

    26% of class are ethnic minorities

    12% of class are 1st generation college

    5% of class are prior service

    20 international cadets from 15 countries
     
  5. usafamomma

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    wow...interesting information...good find
     
  6. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    When USAFA allows the full info to be released, I'll post it if they don't put it on their page.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  7. usafamomma

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    thank you :))
     
  8. thealt

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    i thought on read on the Academy's FB that out of 1050, 1033 actually in-processed.
     
  9. ncmom26

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    It's unfortunate for sure. DS would have loved to be in one of those slots with you Jsig.
     
  10. MN-Dad-2016

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    All of the academies "budget" for a certain amount of attrition. Things like people not getting off the bus, people getting hurt etc. It is all part of the algorithm. Putting it another way if no one dropped out for any reason, they would have too many Cadets.

    But I do understand your point. :)
     
  11. Christcorp

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    Hence, the reason for such a small class this year. In years past, the norm was to offer between 1600-1700 appointments. 10-15% of those as Letters of Assurance and Early Appointments in the Oct-Dec time frame. Out of those 1600-1700 appointments, the academy knew for a fact that between 300-400 would turn down the appointments. "Believe it or not, not everyone who attends/applies to the academies have it as their FIRST choice". Even today, there are cadets who are there because they didn't get their first choice. Anyway; the average attendance was approximately 1250-1300 going into BCT.

    Approximately 85 would drop out or be forced out during BCT. More would drop out in the first year. Many more would drop out at the end of their 2nd year prior to commitment. Average graduation class would be about 950-1000. The recent 4 year economy has been the biggest contributing factor. It's harder to get into any school and afford it. It's equally as hard to find a decent stable job. Especially one with security. So in a nutshell; most entering cadets over the last 4 years have basically stayed and didn't voluntarily leave. They're putting up with the military way of life. Thus, the reason for graduating classes ABOVE the 1000 mark. Remember, the goal is to have approximately 4400 cadets with graduating classes no more than 1000. Hard to do if people are afraid of the economy. This is the same military wide. When the economy sucks; the military gets a lot more recruits. When the economy is good; it's harder than hell to meet our enlistment and commissioning goals.
     
  12. batmom

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    Regarding Attrition rates

    I might be wrong, but it sounds as though the drop-out rate for this class is higher than in the past. Is there any explanation as to why this is so or if it is so?
     
  13. BobBigBoy

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    Not sure where I heard it but I seem to remember that the class size started at 1,045 and in the commandant's speech today, he said there were 997 left. Probably normal I would assume.
     
  14. scraper

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    It is one thing to drop out and another to be turned back, I think both of these numbers are involved at this time though I venture only guess. some failed drug test, some quit wihtin 24 hours of being their, some broke this or that, some quit later.
     
  15. falconfamily

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    It is pretty typical for the I-Day numbers to drop by 50 or so by the end of BCT, another 50 will typically leave during the course of the Doolie year. For example, the Class of 2015 came in with 1133, they are now under 1000.
     
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    The Commandent said the I-Day start number was 1,037 so the Class of 2016 is already down 40 going into BCT2. Does BCT 2 historically have a significantly lower drop rate than BCT?
     
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    I would be surprised if it dropped alot more then that though there will be a few. I would think less then 10 but it's a guess. I was curious to see how this class did/does because of the more stringent selection proccess. Maybe more turnbacks then drops??
     
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    I can't see any correlation between the smaller class entry size and the amount of dropouts. You just can't select only those that will not drop out - if so the starting class size would equal the graduation class. There will always be those that thought 100% the Academy was for them and then they decide it was not. You would think, with all the information out there nowdays, that they would understand what a military school is going to be like, but it doesn't seem to work that way. Also, the reality is, alot are recruited as athletes, and when playing time doesn't work out or they realize they have to do some of the military stuff too, then they are out the door.
     
  19. kdc246

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    That is quite a generalization you made there. Maybe you know more than I, as you have a firstie. I do have a C2C non-athlete and and almost C4C who is an athlete. The athlete already knows at this early stage, if the team doesn't work out, he still wants to be an AF officer and is ready to make the commitment to do what it takes to reach the true end goal. Maybe that is not the case for some of them but to make a generalized statement like that incites the T-Zo gap.
     
  20. BobBigBoy

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    Let's face it, no one is going pro out of USAFA. And, typically, USAFA doesn't get the blue chip athletes that 'Bama, SC or Notre Dame gets. So, one would think that the recruited athletes that make it through the admissions and BCT gauntlet have a decent idea of what they are in for and why they are there. At this point, I know that my DD places her sport secondary to her education and preparing to become an officer because that is the ultimate goal not playing four years. Sure, to have it all would be great but priorities are key upon accepting your nomination with a full understanding of what the commitment means. If her #1 goal was playing for a D1 powerhouse and she could have, then she wouldn't be in Jacks Valley as we speak.
     

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