AFROTC Question
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Yes. My DS never applied to UNCCH nor did he finish his NYU application. Both offered him admission with merit. What I was told was that when the scholarships are released they can see the stats for that recipient. Many schools have ROTC cadre that sit on the admission board. This is what I call the push and pull. They go to the board and inform that they know of X AFROTC candidate that has been awarded a type whatever, and that recipient fits their typical admission candidate. That is the push, the pull is your child matriculating. AFROTC is not tied to the school, just the cadet.
Beware though and make sure it is from the school. I called both UNC and NYU thinking it was a scam. They said, no, he was accepted and all he had to do was sign the paperwork they sent and he would be admitted. Neither school was on his list, so he did not send the paperwork.
Have your DD call those dets directly to guarantee this is not a for profit organization that has found her somewhere on the net.
Beware though and make sure it is from the school. I called both UNC and NYU thinking it was a scam. They said, no, he was accepted and all he had to do was sign the paperwork they sent and he would be admitted. Neither school was on his list, so he did not send the paperwork.
Have your DD call those dets directly to guarantee this is not a for profit organization that has found her somewhere on the net.
Yes, my DS got his award on Monday and has had 2 detachments email him with information of what they provide to award recipients. His email said that 613 scholarships have been awarded so far. Not sure where that number came from, but figured I would include it since I found it interesting.
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How many scholarships are awarded annually? I think I once heard that it's around 1400. Does this sound correct?
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Last time I saw numbers it was under 1100. Statistically it has been about 18% of all applicants that will receive a scholarship. @80% will get a type 7, 15% will get a type 2, and 5% get a type 1.
Note the 18% is applications, not the % for boarded. Not everyone that opens an application will complete it, or be boarded. Some will not be boarded because they do not meet the academic requirements, such as the SAT/ACT mins. Like USAFA the overall % increases if you get to boarded.
If 613 have been awarded already that would bring it to @ the 1100 number. Dec has traditionally been the big release.
Think of the scholarship release like a bell curve. The 1st and last boards typically offer the least amount. The 1st board because they don't want to hand out everything right out of the gate. The ones that get a scholarship at that board are usually the ones they know from historical data they will get a scholarship and that type of scholarship. The last board the numbers are small because not only is there a limited pot of gold and they are at getting close to no more money, but, they are also down to fewer applicants.
Good luck.
Note the 18% is applications, not the % for boarded. Not everyone that opens an application will complete it, or be boarded. Some will not be boarded because they do not meet the academic requirements, such as the SAT/ACT mins. Like USAFA the overall % increases if you get to boarded.
If 613 have been awarded already that would bring it to @ the 1100 number. Dec has traditionally been the big release.
Think of the scholarship release like a bell curve. The 1st and last boards typically offer the least amount. The 1st board because they don't want to hand out everything right out of the gate. The ones that get a scholarship at that board are usually the ones they know from historical data they will get a scholarship and that type of scholarship. The last board the numbers are small because not only is there a limited pot of gold and they are at getting close to no more money, but, they are also down to fewer applicants.
Good luck.
https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/2018-afrotc-hssp-statistics.61445/
It was around 2300 last year.
Talking to several detachments this year, AFROTC is placing a lot more emphasis on only interviewing the top candidates. This is the reason the award rate was around 80% last year and is expected to hold this year.
According to the cadre I spoke to, to get an interview, you need at least a 3.5 GPA, ACT/SAT in the high 20s/1300s, respectively, and you have to have solid reported leadership experience and/or varsity sports.
The roughly 20% that didn't get an offer effectively self-eliminated via poor interview performance, poor PFA scores, or excessive civil involvements.
That's just what I've been told, but again-that's speaking to multiple detachments and getting the same answer.
I know OTS graduation rates are also well above 90% currently - again due to a much stricter application process and an insistence that only the most viable candidates arrive at Maxwell.
It was around 2300 last year.
Talking to several detachments this year, AFROTC is placing a lot more emphasis on only interviewing the top candidates. This is the reason the award rate was around 80% last year and is expected to hold this year.
According to the cadre I spoke to, to get an interview, you need at least a 3.5 GPA, ACT/SAT in the high 20s/1300s, respectively, and you have to have solid reported leadership experience and/or varsity sports.
The roughly 20% that didn't get an offer effectively self-eliminated via poor interview performance, poor PFA scores, or excessive civil involvements.
That's just what I've been told, but again-that's speaking to multiple detachments and getting the same answer.
I know OTS graduation rates are also well above 90% currently - again due to a much stricter application process and an insistence that only the most viable candidates arrive at Maxwell.
Tbpxece,
What is meant by "excessive civil involvements"?
Can you define a "civil involvement"?
Does that mean, a record of political activity that betrays a likely inability to separate one's military commitment to the mission from one's political convictions and attachments?
What is meant by "excessive civil involvements"?
Can you define a "civil involvement"?
Does that mean, a record of political activity that betrays a likely inability to separate one's military commitment to the mission from one's political convictions and attachments?
Ha, no! I meant more like speeding tickets, school suspensions, etc. Civil authority involements would be the non-shorthand way of saying it. Sorry!
I guess it could also mean Hatch Act violations, but that only applies to federal employees (which technically only contracted cadets are) and is rarely prosecuted anyway.
Thanks for asking for the clarification, reminds me to take care to avoid jargon...