I'm sure you're qualified to make such statements.
I am !
I'm sure you're qualified to make such statements.
I am !
Being a malcontent with the process is not a qualification. And if the process of applying is taxing you to the point of lashing out with such sadly ignorant statements, the Military Academy may not be the best environment with which to interact.
You continue to support my original assertion.
Why you feel so hostile toward the process, I don't know. But the fact remains that USMA owes no candidate anything but a yes/no decision remains true. USMA does not exist to serve candidates or parents. It exists to serve the Army mission.
Either buy into that reality, or don't and move on from the Army and West Point.
USMA only exists because the fine men and women of this country who want to serve and serve at a high level.
Isert orginal assertion again. Thanks for the support
Ditto on frustrating !!!! The communication process is subpar.
Also not helping matters is that this years class, more than others over last few years, is paying for the sins off excess enrollment and low attrition.
I believe West Point is more forthcoming than the Ivy League and other top schools. My son applied and was accepted to an Ivy School and MIT (but chose West Point) last year. We received ZERO INFORMATION from the Ivy school and MIT during the process. We received several valuable inputs from the WP admissions officials during this period. The Ivy schools and MIT announced their admissions decisions on April 1. There were no Regional Officers to call and get information, no Field Force to help with the process, no web site (that I know of) to check your status - just silence. The head of the ROTC at this Universary very much wanted my son to come to his ROTC program but he told us that he had no influence on the Admissions process and could not get ANY advanced information from the Admissions people.
I think WP does a very good job keeping people as informed as possible - however, it is difficult selecting 1150 (or so) from about 2400 fully qualified, wonderful, highly motivated, deserving, nominated candidates within the Title 10 Laws.
The only thing you can do is wait. If your DS is not chosen and wants to try again next year I suggest you use your energy to determine the relative weakness in your application and how to make those weaknesses strengths next year.
I believe the system (not perfect) is successful in selecting the right people for WP. I also believe that in our society today that many people feel that if their son, daughter, organization, team etc is not selected then the system is at fault. Fighting the system will not get your DS in WP.
My opinion, Ricky B states these fine young men and women that have applied for WP are owed an response and I agree. I belive that will happen. When WP have made their decision, they will respect and respond to all those fine young men and women who applied will received what is owe to them....Accept or decline and thanks for your interest. Ricky B is not wrong in that, they are owed that and they will get that! All that still wait, good luck and those that are not accepted, its great to know we have so many wonderful students. Parents its been a diificult road for some of us, if you have a suggestion on how to improve the system for follwers, please make them...Im sure WP will be grateful!
I don't recall anyone contending that the candidates are owed anything less than a response. The problem is when folks start wanting constant feedback and input. As BigNick said, USMA is far more forthcoming with updates than the standard hope&wait method of other top schools.
Are they owed a response? Absolutely! Does West Point owe them "everything"? Not a chance.
OK now its doesn't owe them "everything" vs "anything" or nothing in earlier remarks. My original assertion continues to be supported.
What is your original assertion? You have repeated the above statement several times, so I thought it might be a good idea if you repeat your original assertion. That may help because I honestly dont know. I do know BigNick stated WP owes nothing "except a yes or no". So, what is your original assertion. B
OK now its doesn't owe them "everything" vs "anything" or nothing in earlier remarks. My original assertion continues to be supported.
Scoutpilot said:We see these threads yearly, with complaints about how the "communication stinks" and West Point "should really let us know X, Y, and Z by now" and so forth.
West Point doesn't owe you anything besides a "yes" or a "no." That includes having no responsibility for allaying your fears and anxiety about whether or not you're getting in. The RCs are as busy as can be and they work for institution which owes you nothing more than an opportunity to apply as an American citizen. If you have gotten this far, be thankful.
I understand everyone wants to know and is hoping fervently for acceptance. That is a hard pill to swallow...sit and wait. That, however, is reality. West Point does not owe you a blow by blow accounting of every step of your application or a realtime ticker of the odds of acceptance for any one candidate at any one time.
At midnight on April 30, those who haven't accepted their offers will lose them. A select few will receive an offer after that.
Continuing to gripe because little Johnny or Suzy hasn't heard yet does nothing, and the endless merry-go-round of complaining gets tiresome quickly and is insulting to the RCs who work feverishly and the Field Force members (like yours truly, BigNick, and others) who give up night after night of our time to help someone else's kids get accepted to the college of their dreams. Every parent has a little Johnny or Suzy and they all want the same answers. Sometimes that isn't feasible.
Squat and hold, airborne. Your answer will come. It may not be what you liked, but it will come.
Scoutpilot said:Telling the truth is not condescending. It's reality. WP owes a yes or no to each candidate. Each will receive that. Why everyone thinks WP owes an endless amount of information to applicants that would not be offered by Harvard or State U admissions is beyond me. In that regard, WP owes you nothing beyond a decision. I have no problem sympathizing with anxiety. What I don't care for is people acting as though WP is somehow failing to give them what they believe they're owed.
Scoutpilot said:Why you feel so hostile toward the process, I don't know. But the fact remains that USMA owes no candidate anything but a yes/no decision remains true. USMA does not exist to serve candidates or parents. It exists to serve the Army mission.
Scoutpilot said:I don't recall anyone contending that the candidates are owed anything less than a response. The problem is when folks start wanting constant feedback and input. As BigNick said, USMA is far more forthcoming with updates than the standard hope&wait method of other top schools.
Are they owed a response? Absolutely! Does West Point owe them "everything"? Not a chance.
RockyB said:Really hope.you are not a past present or future represemtative of our military. WP owes everything to these kids especially a courtesy of a reply