AROTC 2nd Board Waiters 2015

Jcleppe said:
civic29 said:
I still can't wrap my head around the fact I was pretty much just handed a 150k dollar check and the career path I have always wanted.
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Congratulations.

Now the Reality.

What you've actually been given is a Government Backed Student Loan. This Loan has various options for re-payment.

1. Payback of loan if you drop the program or are disenrolled after your sophomore year.
2. Possible Enlistment as payback if you drop or are disenrolled after your sophomore year.
3. 8 years Reserve or National Guard Service
4. 4 years Active and 4 years IRR (Competitive and not a guarantee.)
5. Once you commission you have to complete your service obligation or you could still end up having to repay the scholarship.

There are several ways a cadet can be disenrolled from ROTC, you'll learn those as you go.

As far as the Career Path, unless your in the top 10% of the Active Duty OML the Army will choose that career path for you. You make a wish list but it is ultimately up to the Army.

Meet all the requirements of your contract and you will commission, you will find even in your new battalion that not everyone will make it through.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but keep this in the back of your mind, don't dwell on it but be aware. The hard work is just beginning.

Now with that being said.....It is pretty awesome isn't it.
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This should be read by all scholarship winners and their parents. Maybe in a sticky on the ROTC page in big bold letters, ALL SCHOLARSHIP WINNERS READ THIS. Add to this advice about showing up the first day ready to pass the APFT and it would be perfect.
 
hardknock96 said:
4 year scholarship to...
FSU-accepted
UCF-pending
VMI-accepted
Did it with 26 ACT, ranking 16% and a 3.87 cumnlative GPA

Also, how does this scholarship work? It is all tuition-paid at certain schools versus others?
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As you have been told, it can be used for either full tuition or for room and board. With your stats I would assume you have also received the Bright Futures Scholarship for Florida schools. If this is the case, you will probably use the scholarship for Room and Board as neither FSU or UCF give that as a perk for ROTC. In that case, it will be up to $10,000 per year for R&B. Each year you can elect how to use the scholarship.
 
I just want to congratulate everyone here who got the scholarship! Unfortunately, to my great dismay, I was passed over. Be that as it may, good job with getting to where you are, keep working, and I hope to serve along with some of you in the near future.

If anyone knows someone who got the scholarship to Michigan Technological University, I would really like to know.

Congrats on your success, and good luck for your future, and with the DoDMERD, you'll need it.
 
I had a 4 year to Syracuse U, Niagara University, and University at Buffalo.
SAT: Math:570 CR: 570 GPA: 3.6/3.8weighted.

It doesn't just base off your academics. You need to be well rounded and show leadership and involvement in extracurricular activities.


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="StowieJ, post: 403125, member: 24203"]I just want to congratulate everyone here who got the scholarship! Unfortunately, to my great dismay, I was passed over. Be that as it may, good job with getting to where you are, keep working, and I hope to serve along with some of you in the near future.

If anyone knows someone who got the scholarship to Michigan Technological University, I would really like to know.

Congrats on your success, and good luck for your future, and with the DoDMERD, you'll need it.[/QUOTE]
Keep your chin up, Stowie. It's not over yet! You could get a scholarship even after you arrive at your college. Hang in there!
 
ginko said:
="StowieJ, post: 403125, member: 24203"]I just want to congratulate everyone here who got the scholarship! Unfortunately, to my great dismay, I was passed over. Be that as it may, good job with getting to where you are, keep working, and I hope to serve along with some of you in the near future.

If anyone knows someone who got the scholarship to Michigan Technological University, I would really like to know.

Congrats on your success, and good luck for your future, and with the DoDMERD, you'll need it.
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Keep your chin up, Stowie. It's not over yet! You could get a scholarship even after you arrive at your college. Hang in there![/QUOTE]
If my chin gets any higher my head might fall off! I'm only joking... I appreciate the encouragement.[emoji108] It's a bit discouraging to hear the results are out, and know you haven't made it. But it's not gonna stop me from joining the ROTC, even if I never get the scholarship.

It'll make me work twice as hard for it if anything.
 
I just want to give a word of encouragement to anyone who did not receive a scholarship from the 2nd board. The Army only has so many scholarships to give away, and there is no possible way that they can award every great applicant a scholarship. The good thing is, however, scholarship or not, there are a bunch of you, if not all of you, who are amazing candidates who will make excellent officers one day. The fact that you are actively using this forum, in itself alone, shows that you have a drive to accomplish something greater, and that distinguishes you as a leader and as a person. Don't let your head hang low for a second, because there will still be another board, and even after that you can get a campus based scholarship. At the end of the day we we will all be cadets, and we will all be wearing the same uniform and serving the same country. You all have something to be proud of for making it this far and for aspiring to be in the US Army. Good luck to you all, and I look forward to serving alongside you.
 
I agree with JS15000. Last year, I thought DD had a great shot at getting a scholarship during the 1st board. She seemed to have the total package with high test scores, team captain of multiple sports, leadership positions, All-state athlete in her favorite sport, #1 in her class rank, high GPA, etc. I was disappointed when she wasn't selected by the first board. Shocked that she wasn't selected the 2nd board and began to wonder what caused her not to be selected. She had gotten a NROTC scholarship very early in the last year's cycle. We speculated that maybe she has scored low on that CBEF Test which is 250 of the 1400 points of the WCS. She finally got the scholarship on the 3rd board and it was all 4-year scholarships to 3 schools including her top, private school. So, hang in there and know there is still a chance.
 
I already won a scholarship, but im just curious about this. Is it correct that your application is only looked at on the first board that you are board ready? For example, my application was boarded in October, but was it looked at again at all after that?
 
JS15000 said:
I already won a scholarship, but im just curious about this. Is it correct that your application is only looked at on the first board that you are board ready? For example, my application was boarded in October, but was it looked at again at all after that?
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You are correct. Once you have everything in, you are scored and that score does not change. However, your ranking on the list can change (up or down) depending upon applicants that are boarded after you.
 
Future2LtMom said:
You are correct. Once you have everything in, you are scored and that score does not change. However, your ranking on the list can change (up or down) depending upon applicants that are boarded after you.
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Unfortunately, you are only partially correct. There are certain things that can change. Your score from the board will stay the same, your sal will stay the same, but your PT and SAT (total of 400 points between the 2,) can float up if you improve and get it in. As I understand it, those scores you get on those 2 things are set to specific values, such as: 5 minute mile is 50 points, 60 pushups is 50 points, 60 situps is 50 points. So no one has to look at it to know how that translates to a score. Sat and act are the same, 1600 =250 points, 1400 =200 points, 1200=150 points, 1000=100 points, or whatever there markband is.

So yes, you are only boarded once, but your whole person score can change based on your PFA and SAT. At least as I understand the system, as it was mentioned in other threads and from a few pms' s themselves.

(Clarkson army had a few good points on this. If you want I can go find them, but I feel like it's pretty self explanatory.)
 
What about uploading new files and adding new activities? Will the new ones count if you have already been boarded?
 
JS15000 said:
What about uploading new files and adding new activities? Will the new ones count if you have already been boarded?
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Nope. Those things are what the board uses to determine your score, which they will only ever look at once.

The only things worth your time to upload would be the pfa and sat/act.
 
I would double check on whether you can update your PFT scores after your application has been boarded.

It has always been my understanding hat only the SAT/ACT scores can be updated after an application is boarded. I believe school selections can be rearranged as well.

Something to remember, to receive max points on the academic section of the interview you need a 1100 SAT or 24 ACT. If you are below that mark but retake the tests, now score above that mark, and resubmit the scores, if you have already been boarded the new scores will not add points to your interview sheet. You may gain a couple points on the overall Academics section but not the larger number of points from the interview.

Unless you can bring your SAT score up by at least 100 points, the added points to your score will be minimal.
 
Well for people like me who booster their scores by 120 points it is definitely in their interest to send cc your new scores.
 
And I think the pfa is a flat rate scoring just the same as sat/act. So that would make it changeable. (From my understanding of the system.)
 
StowieJ said:
And I think the pfa is a flat rate scoring just the same as sat/act. So that would make it changeable. (From my understanding of the system.)
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Again, make sure you have your facts confirmed before you advise applicants to start trying to send in new PFT scores. You don't want to be sending CC information that they are not going to accept and run the risk of derailing the application.
 
I talked to the cadre at my school of intent about it. They were literally like "go ahead, it won't make it worse" and gave me the explanation below.

I put my word and my honor on the fact that you can. The PFT is a seperately graded part of the test. I'm sure someone else can confirm this, but if anyone is worried that it might "derail" their application, then just send CC a note yourself. I would do it myself, but I got a very good PFA (not PFT, the test is really different) score. And the guys working the system have a history of messing up my portal (very long story).
 
StowieJ said:
I talked to the cadre at my school of intent about it. They were literally like "go ahead, it won't make it worse" and gave me the explanation below.

I put my word and my honor on the fact that you can. The PFT is a seperately graded part of the test. I'm sure someone else can confirm this, but if anyone is worried that it might "derail" their application, then just send CC a note yourself. I would do it myself, but I got a very good PFA (not PFT, the test is really different) score. And the guys working the system have a history of messing up my portal (very long story).
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I'm not questioning your word or honor, but for now you are just an new applicant, you haven't been a part of ROTC yet. You'll find that even the Cadre don't always know that much about the application system and it's details. Not all are like Clarkson.

Even you have a history of having your portal messed up, to advise others that there will be no chance to derail or add a glitch to an application by submitting information they may not accept is not a good idea. Applicants should get confirmation from their POC at CC before sending in any changes after they have been boarded. Don't just send things in hoping they will accept them.

The test is the Presidential Fitness Test, the same scoring that is on the Physical Fitness Assessment score card.
 
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Jcleppe said:
I'm not questioning your word or honor, but for now you are just an new applicant, you haven't been a part of ROTC yet. You'll find that even the Cadre don't always know that much about the application system and it's details. Not all are like Clarkson.

Even you have a history of having your portal messed up, to advise others that there will be no chance to derail or add a glitch to an application by submitting information they may not accept is not a good idea. Applicants should get confirmation from their POC at CC before sending in any changes after they have been boarded. Don't just send things in hoping they will accept them.

The test is the Presidential Fitness Test, the same scoring that is on the Physical Fitness Assessment score card.
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If I can ask, what's the difference between the pft and the pfa? I assumed the pfa is a modified pft. (I know it's different from the apft, but i was corrected numerous times when i called it the pft in the past.)

The situation I had to deal with was about schools of intent, and the army's changing network system. Not related to the thing we're talking about, but somewhat relavent, as if you ask then to change soecific things that they aren't supposed to change, it can have a negative effect, which they did manage to rectify quite quickly.
 
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