scoutpilot
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Care to elaborate on that a bit,
He did recently receive word that there ended up being only 2, the person who loaded the shell and a Sgt., that are going to be discharged.
So I take it from your comment that your stationed at Ft. Bragg, and must have been involved with the exercises that went on that day.
No I don't think any outcome made him feel better, I didn,t know all investigations end in rumor, I'll have to remember that. I better go back and check the files of every investigation I was ever involved with during my time in the service to make sure the outcome was not just a rumor.
The "Outcome" was a bit different then he was told 3 days after it occured, but the "Investigations" do take time.
They must have sold that Bill of Goods to his Lt. Col. (PMS) Since a ROTC cadet was involved he received a copy of the report and relayed the information to my son.
The jury's still out on which is the smarter Branch.
Three salient points:
1. Thank you for confirming exactly what I said...what you said he was told 3 days after the incident, specifically that "at least 3 enlisted and 2 officers had just become unemployed civilians," was rumor and conjecture. By your own admission, no officers and possibly 2 enlisted servicemembers are facing separation. He was told of an outcome in the past tense, as though it had happened when it clearly had not. Your follow-up information is plausible, but what you posted at first is not.
2. Having been in the military yourself, you should know that a 15-6 doesn't operate on a timeline like that. Soldiers, and especially not officers, are not separated from the military after a 3-day investigation (if they even had the IO appointment orders written by then). I would guess that someone made that remark off the cuff in an attempt to show him that they were not taking it lightly.
3. Have you read the IO's summary, in full, yourself? If not, I don't think you really have cause to characterize any servicemember as "some stupid ^&$@#*" without firsthand knowledge of what happened. Even if someone did make a grave error in the laying or loading of the gun, that doesn't make them stupid. It makes them a human being in a uniform. Having worked a gun line in the past, I would be more concerned about how the procedural failsafes didn't prevent the incident.
What exactly is the M40 you referred to? Did you mean 40mm grenades from a M203?