March 8th, 2011 AROTC Board

I will be attending my first semester of college in the fall and the SMP sounds amazing to me. Scholarship or not I plan on serving my country and the SMP seems like an ROTC student that also has a part time job. I do not think it is anything extremely overwhelming as long as the proper amount of motivation and time is put into it. I even considered not to long ago turning down the scholarship if I recieved one just so I could participate in SMP. Self motivation is key. My parents do not need to prod me in the right direction when I am already motivated enough to succeed in whatever path I choose.

Thank you guys for all of the info that you have provided for me in the past few months. It has been stressfull and frustrating but I will not be discouraged when that status never changes:thumb :thumb:
 
I will be attending my first semester of college in the fall and the SMP sounds amazing to me. Scholarship or not I plan on serving my country and the SMP seems like an ROTC student that also has a part time job. I do not think it is anything extremely overwhelming as long as the proper amount of motivation and time is put into it. I even considered not to long ago turning down the scholarship if I recieved one just so I could participate in SMP. Self motivation is key. My parents do not need to prod me in the right direction when I am already motivated enough to succeed in whatever path I choose.

Thank you guys for all of the info that you have provided for me in the past few months. It has been stressfull and frustrating but I will not be discouraged when that status never changes:thumb :thumb:

Great attitude. Good luck in your college and army life. SMP is an amazing opportunity and can play a role in making your dream a reality. Everyone takes a little different path - the 2LT bars await those who will do what it takes. Again, good luck!
 
I'm glad you could come here and vent and know we would listen and support you. Yes, perhaps too much is made over grades and test scores, unfortunately it is a fact in so many decisions surrounding college. One question however, why did you not update your GPA before the Oct board? Were grades not available yet? DS didn't have a change in GPA, so we never tried to update that, just curious if you tried.

I hope you have good Plan B,C or whatever to get you where you want to go to school. Your dedication will play out thru your school and army career - go into next year hungry for sucess and keep the faith in yourself always. The dream is only detoured, keep running after it:thumb:

I did actually look into it but just like my new SAT score (which was a little higher but I was told my ACT would be entered since it was higher than both) They told me that once the application is done, its done. You cannot go in and change it. However there is one positive that can still come and that's from campus based scholarships. Since its a whole different application all new information can be posted. So its not all negative. And yeah thanks for understanding, its a little frustrating but I just have to remember that I still have plenty of chances for some sort of scholarship.
 
So does that mean that if my status hasn't changed yet, I'm probably out of the running for a scholarship?
 
So does that mean that if my status hasn't changed yet, I'm probably out of the running for a scholarship?

No one really knows. Some people are claiming that all of the scholarships have been given out, others say they are not done. I would wait from an official post from Clarkson or Marist before you give up hope.
 
So does that mean that if my status hasn't changed yet, I'm probably out of the running for a scholarship?

There is some conflicting information, but it does look like only a few scholarships will post between now and Wednesday. A miracle will happen for a few, your chances are as good as any, but do start reaffirming your back up and other plan just in case....
 
I did actually look into it but just like my new SAT score (which was a little higher but I was told my ACT would be entered since it was higher than both) They told me that once the application is done, its done. You cannot go in and change it. However there is one positive that can still come and that's from campus based scholarships. Since its a whole different application all new information can be posted. So its not all negative. And yeah thanks for understanding, its a little frustrating but I just have to remember that I still have plenty of chances for some sort of scholarship.

Okay, it was a good try on your part. The October board was the first to see my DS also, and I knew somethings could change, but not others once your application was reviewed by the board.

Glad you've got some bounce left in you:biggrin: Campus based funds will be competitive, but hey, someone is gonna get them if they are out there, so it could be any of you.

Take care.:smile:
 
whsoccerjc21 said:
I just feel like they showed their dedication to ROTC by getting everything in early and yet got no reward.

As hard as this is to read, not every kid knew of this option, thus, by the time they submitted paperwork they were behind you.

whsoccerjc21 said:
Also I think CC's requirements focus too much on grades. It's no secret that some of the best soldiers are not "book smart". Most of the education you learn during ROTC is new material and not taught during high school. So why is it then that your high school GPA is so heavily weighed?

The fact is many career fields rely on your academic foundation. The education you learn in ROTC is new material, but it is centered around leading, it is not centered around understanding the engineering of an Apache or a Tank. Your academic career will complete the other part of that equation.

whsoccerjc21 said:
If you look at my actual grades the class that is keeping it down is math. The main reason its low is because I am not interested in math, and I'm not scared to say so. However if you look at my history and english grades (Which I believe are more useful in the Army anyways), they are fantastic because I find that more interesting. Not to mention if they had requested grades from my senior year my GPA would have risen to around a 3.6 because I am enrolled in classes I enjoy learning about and my grades reflect that

Let's take the approach you get commissioned into the Army and are now in combat, would you not agree that Math and Science is a big issue when you have to set coordinates?

I am glad that your grades were better, but anyone in the military will tell you the military life is not about placing you in a position that you enjoy, it is about meeting the needs of the Army. If they view you as a candidate that can only fill one section, and view another that can fill multiple fields, who do they select when they have limited funds?

I am not trying o be rude or mean, I am trying to say this is not personal, this is business. The military, like it or not is a business. They have to optimize their assets.

whsoccerjc21 said:
Also why is it that colleges and university's across the country are slowly phasing SAT and ACT scores out of requirements because they realize they are not true indicators of how smart a student really is, yet CC still requires high scores in order to receive a scholarship?

I don't know the colleges you are speaking of, but for the east coast colleges flat out state mins for honors/scholars or merit and the SAT/ACT is a factor.

whsoccejc21 said:
I understand that grades are still important, but I think CC should weigh them a little less compared to things like leadership and physical attributes. I believe that my other attributes should make me a great soldier even without stellar grades. (3 years of varsity sports, 1 year of captain, Received a leadership award for my team, in great shape, and did awesome on the interview.)

Question? When you get to college and don't make the grade, even on ROTC scholarship will the school place you on academic probation?

Answer: Yes, not only yes, but HE** YES!

You are not a recruited athlete, you are to them just another student. To ROTC, if you get placed on academic probation they just flushed money down the drain.

I am not saying you won't be a great officer. I am saying that in this economy every penny counts, and that the demand has risen to a point that they can't meet it with the supply.

Thus, they need to now address it from a statistical POV. Stats for them is taking things like the SAT/ACT which is nationally administered and ranking from there. They also take school profiles, curriculum rigors and gpas. From there they place these facts into their equation and re-score to their requirements.

When money is flowing life is different, when it is constricted life is different. You just happened to be entering in the constricted time.

I know all of that was harsh to read. My intention is to illustrate why from an outsider position the reasons.
 
So, I am a long time reader first time poster. I received news this morning that my DS was awarded an AROTC scholarship. Our last name begins with Te, and we are from Frankfort, IL (suburb of Chicago) if that helps. This was unexpected as DS had TWE's from USNA, and NROTC. Tears of joy from my DS. This was his second board as he first became eligible in the Jan board. Hang in everyone as I am sure there is more good news to follow for your DS/DD's that are so deservedly worthy of the AROTC scholarship. Here is DS' quals

3.1 unweighted gpa
28 ACT
180 of 200 on interview
4 -yr letter winner in football
3- yr letter winner in track (captain this year)
community service conducts speed and agility clinics in our area
71 pu, 65 su, 5.30 mile
Intends to play FB at Norwich

Hope this helps...Good luck to all that are still waiting...
 
So, I am a long time reader first time poster. I received news this morning that my DS was awarded an AROTC scholarship. Our last name begins with Te, and we are from Frankfort, IL (suburb of Chicago) if that helps. This was unexpected as DS had TWE's from USNA, and NROTC. Tears of joy from my DS. This was his second board as he first became eligible in the Jan board. Hang in everyone as I am sure there is more good news to follow for your DS/DD's that are so deservedly worthy of the AROTC scholarship. Here is DS' quals

3.1 unweighted gpa
28 ACT
180 of 200 on interview
4 -yr letter winner in football
3- yr letter winner in track (captain this year)
community service conducts speed and agility clinics in our area
71 pu, 65 su, 5.30 mile
Intends to play FB at Norwich

Hope this helps...Good luck to all that are still waiting...

Congrats!!! Welcome to the thread -- thank you for posting and sharing with us about your son.
 
As hard as this is to read, not every kid knew of this option, thus, by the time they submitted paperwork they were behind you.



The fact is many career fields rely on your academic foundation. The education you learn in ROTC is new material, but it is centered around leading, it is not centered around understanding the engineering of an Apache or a Tank. Your academic career will complete the other part of that equation.



Let's take the approach you get commissioned into the Army and are now in combat, would you not agree that Math and Science is a big issue when you have to set coordinates?

I am glad that your grades were better, but anyone in the military will tell you the military life is not about placing you in a position that you enjoy, it is about meeting the needs of the Army. If they view you as a candidate that can only fill one section, and view another that can fill multiple fields, who do they select when they have limited funds?

I am not trying o be rude or mean, I am trying to say this is not personal, this is business. The military, like it or not is a business. They have to optimize their assets.



I don't know the colleges you are speaking of, but for the east coast colleges flat out state mins for honors/scholars or merit and the SAT/ACT is a factor.



Question? When you get to college and don't make the grade, even on ROTC scholarship will the school place you on academic probation?

Answer: Yes, not only yes, but HE** YES!

You are not a recruited athlete, you are to them just another student. To ROTC, if you get placed on academic probation they just flushed money down the drain.

I am not saying you won't be a great officer. I am saying that in this economy every penny counts, and that the demand has risen to a point that they can't meet it with the supply.

Thus, they need to now address it from a statistical POV. Stats for them is taking things like the SAT/ACT which is nationally administered and ranking from there. They also take school profiles, curriculum rigors and gpas. From there they place these facts into their equation and re-score to their requirements.

When money is flowing life is different, when it is constricted life is different. You just happened to be entering in the constricted time.

I know all of that was harsh to read. My intention is to illustrate why from an outsider position the reasons.

Don't worry I understand everything your saying but I still believe that some things need to change. And as for the whole math and science thing not being important, I know that it is for certain occupation and I know that I don't have a complete choice in my MOS but at the same time, I don't think the Army would put someone who isn't good at math into idk an accounting role. Although you never know :wink: lol Regardless the bottom line is I am enrolling in ROTC, scholarship or not.
 
So, I am a long time reader first time poster. I received news this morning that my DS was awarded an AROTC scholarship. Our last name begins with Te, and we are from Frankfort, IL (suburb of Chicago) if that helps. This was unexpected as DS had TWE's from USNA, and NROTC. Tears of joy from my DS. This was his second board as he first became eligible in the Jan board. Hang in everyone as I am sure there is more good news to follow for your DS/DD's that are so deservedly worthy of the AROTC scholarship. Here is DS' quals

3.1 unweighted gpa
28 ACT
180 of 200 on interview
4 -yr letter winner in football
3- yr letter winner in track (captain this year)
community service conducts speed and agility clinics in our area
71 pu, 65 su, 5.30 mile
Intends to play FB at Norwich

Hope this helps...Good luck to all that are still waiting...

was there an online status change today???
 
was there an online status change today???

Vinnie's Dad didn't specify where his communication was from. But Clarkson or Marist hasn't declared it officially over, so it seems a few more may post over the next 24 hrs. or so. Fat lady hasn't sang yet, but I think I hear her warming up:frown:

Think I'm going to go get some things done today. Back in later to see what new developments occur.
 
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Vinnie's Dad didn't specify where his communication was from. But Clarkson or Marist hasn't declared it officially over, so it seems a few more may post over the next 24 hrs. or so. Fat lady hasn't sang yet, but I think I hear her warming up:frown:

Think I'm going to go get some things done today. Back in later to see what new developments occur.

Have a great afternoon:thumb:
 
Are scholarships given out by school? Does every school have a certain amount of scholarships that they can give out?
 
Are scholarships given out by school? Does every school have a certain amount of scholarships that they can give out?

Cadet Command allots a certain number in state and out of state for each school, that is for the HS offers. Not sure how the walk ons work.
 
My ROO said that the offers go out today, but we won't know officially until Wednesday... How exactly does that work? My status hasn't changed yet, but there's still a chance for Wednesday?? Do they get notified but not me?
 
My ROO said that the offers go out today, but we won't know officially until Wednesday... How exactly does that work? My status hasn't changed yet, but there's still a chance for Wednesday?? Do they get notified but not me?

From what I've gathered I would give your ROO a call. The "Normal" way it seems to happen is your status will change on line then your ROO may call you. A letter should follow in a few days. But not everything has been "normal":thumb: so if it's killing you..I'd call. If you've spoken to him/her already today then just join the crowd in waiting it out.
 
DD

Got a scholarship notice today....even after school said his name didn't show up! Good luck everyone.....they are still sending them out!
 
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