National Waiting List

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  1. riroka

    riroka Member

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    Yesterday my son got a TWE. The letter said he was being put on the waiting list. Anyone else get one of these?
     
  2. goatlady

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    what is a twe?

    are their any more appointments expected?
     
  3. Just_A_Mom

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    Thin White Envelope

    Lots of candidates will be notified they are on the waiting list. Many more appointments will be offered in March and even April. Some will be offered late in the process - think May.
    Until you have received a letter notifying you that you will NOT receive an appointment - you are still in the running.
    IMO - candidates who are notified they are on the waiting list and who will accept a AOG prep scholarship should communicate this to their Regional commander.

    ALSO - Any candidate who receives a TWE should open it!! It just might not be a rejection.
     
  4. TomV

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    I've been wondering about this. Does there come a point in time where you get an official "you will not be receiving an appointment" letter? Son has nomination and received the letter notifiying of NWL. He has Plan B ready to go with 4yr ROTC scholarship if the appointment doesn't come. I know there are stories of the last minute appointments but I assume there is some point where a candidate is out of the running.
     
  5. cjs

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    My son is also on the NWL.
    We've heard that this year will not be a good year for the NWL as far as appointments are concerned. Anyone else hear something different?
     
  6. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    I was on the NWL a couple months back. A month ago I received an appointment. I suppose that counts as something different. :biggrin:
     
  7. Just_A_Mom

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    All candidates who are rejected for admission will receive a letter informing them.

    Last year all those who were FQNS (fully qualified, not selected) were offered a national 4 year Army ROTC scholarship to the school of their choice. Not sure if that will be the case this year or not.
     
  8. cjs

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    Unless you receive an appointment I guess you sit until you are told "no thank you". Do you ever receive a rejection a month or so into being on the NwL?

    Though not getting in is a major disappointment, a ROTC scholarship to the school oh you choice would be nice. Did everyone left on the NWL get one? Any idea when they were informed?
     
  9. Just_A_Mom

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    cjs - if you are on the NWL and later on admissions realizes that you won't make the cut then you will receive a letter.

    From what I heard last year, those who were FQNS were notified of the scholarship in their rejection letter - sort of a consolation prize. I feel kind of bad mentioning it because I don't know if it will happen this year or not.

    Again, if you have been on the NWL and have not heard anything for a few weeks - over a month - as we move into March; then make contact. If you would be interested in an AOG scholarship then notify admissions. They are trying to fill those slots as well.
     
  10. cjs

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    Thank you. It's my son who is on the NWL so I was just wondering how it all worked now that he is on the list. He was placed on the NWL on 1/25/10 according to the date of the letter.

    We have also been told that there won't be as many appointments from the NWL as in years past.
     
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    WOW!!! If I dont get an appointment I hope they do the ROTC scholarship deal this year as well! That is a great deal!
     
  12. 11BRAVO

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    Where did you hear this? That goes against everything our government and the system stands for.
     
  13. Just_A_Mom

    Just_A_Mom Member

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    One on forum (or another) several kids posted this. Turned out to, in fact be true. I will look for the history and PM you.

    What makes you say that? Your logic escapes me.
     
  14. riroka

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    I don't get how EVERY person on the NWL gets a ROTC scholarship to the school of their choice. I am not trying to argue with Just A Mom, i believe she did see it on another forum. However, there are a limited # of ROTC spots per school. On the other hand, I imagine most of the people on the NWL have also applied (and many recieved) a ROTC scholarship. So if they actually give them out the number of people needing one is not as large as it appears.
     
  15. 11BRAVO

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    Slots at Service Academy's and ROTC scholarships are budgeted based on laws created by Congress. West Point gets a finite amount of money to fund x number of cadets each year. ROTC gets the same. To my knowledge there are no contingency or supplemental funds allocated for this use.

    Let's assume 1,300 offers of admission are awarded to West Point and 3,000 fully qualified applicants are not admitted. These 3,000 are given a full four year scholarhip to the college of their choice. 1,000 choose a private college at a cost of $45,000 per year (x 4 years) totalling 180 million dollars. The remainding 2,000attend an in-state school at a cost of $25,000 per year (x 4 years) totalling 200 million dollars. Total cost of 380 million dollars.

    They say a West Point education is worth $250,000. For 1,300 incoming cadets this cost would be 325 million dollars, less than what it costs to give out consolation awards. Of course this assume none of the West Point applicants applied for an ROTC scholarship to begin with but you see my point.
     
  16. BOBBY_J

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    I think she meant Fully Qualified with Noms because the numbers there make more sense. 2000 fully Qual. with nom 1500 offered admission 500 fully qual with nom but not offered admission. So 500 scholarships not as bad os 3000. lol:shake:
     
  17. Chockstock

    Chockstock "Forever One Team"

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    Mmm I'm not trying to sound accusing or anything, but it seems that your chief motive for applying to WP and ROTC scholarships is the financial advantages...
     
  18. cjs

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    It may only go to those on the National Wait list and I don't think that 3000 kids are placed on that. In the past we were told it's more like 900 to 1000 and for the last few years around 500 have been taken off that list.
     
  19. Buddy

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    Wow, Chockstock. . . That is a harsh and unfair judgment. I've read Bobby J's posts and I would never have come to the conclusion. His expression of excitement about the possibility of getting a full scholarship if he doesn't get an appointment seems completely normal.
     
  20. M2inOR

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    Some recent stats:

    Cpt. Cuevas is the outreach officer in the admissions office for the Far West Region. I met her earlier this week during my son's overnight visit.

    She has a Facebook post that indicated:
    "So, here is the latest: as of February 22, 1,100 students have been offered seats to West Point. With an 81% acceptance rate, that means we only have 500 seats left."​
    See: http://www.facebook.com/Captain.Cuevas

    I'm pretty sure she means appointments when she writes "seats".

    In past years, the published stats indicated that typically 1600 appointments are offered. And only 1300 are actually admitted. As in past years, there are many candidates who may have appointments to more than one academy. During my son's visit, another candidate also had an appt. to the Naval Academy. The candidate still was not sure which one to attend. As these candidates make their decision, people from the NWL are offered appointments as slots are freed up.

    As for ROTC scholarships, yes, there are a finite number. Again, some may have both a scholarship offer as well as an appointment. Either may be freed up once a final decision is made.

    Good luck to everyone on the NWL, and may the time pass quickly. I know it can be really tough waiting.
     

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