Summer assignments at USMA?

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  1. jomass

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    What are some typical summer assignments at the USMA after years 1, 2, and 3? I know that midshipman at the Naval Academy are typically onboard a ship heading to other countries for summer duty.

    What do cadets do? Are they assigned to Army bases elsewhere in the US? Do they ever get assignments to bases in other countries during summer months?

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  2. America's Finest

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    They may be assigned to army bases in the US or go to other countries. Some are for military training programs (shadow a platoon leader, airborne, air assault, sapper). These may be in US bases or foreign bases anywhere.

    Others are for academics such as submersion into your foreign language.
     
  3. mom3boys

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    After plebe year, cadets attend cadet field training (CFT). After Yuk year, cadets have a leadership requirement. This can be met by SLS, Beast, or a few other options. Some cadets will travel overseas for various programs. For example, mine is doing a semester abroad next fall, so he will go to language school for a month this summer. I know of cadets who spent last summer in Russia, Israel, Jordan, and other countries too. Many, many opportunities exist for cadets to "see the world."
     
  4. 2012Cadet

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    How many military training programs could you do during the summer (I have interests in Northern/Mt. Warfare, Air Assault, Airborne, Shadowing, and possibly others)? Also, how much of your summer is taken up if you want to "get ahead" in classes (i.e. summer school)?
     
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    I too would like to know about this. Mountain warfare would be great. Not so much for Airbourne though. :p
     
  6. America's Finest

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    Each summer is divided into 3 blocks. So 3 military training programs per summer. Some will be mandatory (CFT after Plebe year takes 1 block).

    Here is a list of some of the schools available for cadets this summer.

     
  7. 2012Cadet

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    So you have 2 blocks soph yr. and 6 junior and senior yrs.? A get ahead summer sch. would take up 1 for whole or each course? They have SFAS for cadets:eek:...this is new. Do you still have to be selected by board to attend? If my goal in the Army is SF/Rangers, besides SFAS and Pre-Ranger, which assignments should I do?

    Man...they all sound good and I wish I could do all of them (except pathfinder...no offense to those who are, by the way)
     
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  8. jomass

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    Great info, America's Finest. As a follow up, let me ask about this in regards to female cadets. Many of the options, jungle survival, pre-ranger course, etc....aren't these pretty much for males only? (I don't believe females can enter Ranger training, but not sure).

    What might be some of the options for females for summer duty?

    Thanks again
     
  9. America's Finest

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    Each course will only take 1 block unless that specific course lasts longer than the days in one block in which case it goes into the second block. I didn't fully understand your question but tried to guess what you were asking.

    Requirements: (SFAS) Male, completed current physical, 270 or above on 18 year old APFT scale, and attend a pre-selection at West Point, and obtain a recommendation from the Special Forces panel. (Intent is to send rising Cows so they can fill the cadre positions the following year)

    Selection Process: (SFAS) Due to the limited quantity of slots available for SFAS, it is essential that we send our absolute best candidates. In order to properly assess each Cadet there will be a required pre-selection given here at West Point from January to March 2010. The pre-selection will include, but is not limited to a PT test, stress events, APFT, and an interview. This assessment will focus on the skills and techniques that will be tested during SFAS.

    I took a quick look at the requirements for each of those and the only one which explicitly listed being male as a requirement was SFAS. The rest only mentioned passing different tests and being profficient in different areas and languages.

    I am currently in Georgia (Christmas Leave :cool:) but will ask female cadets what types of training they did during the Summer once I get back up there (Jan 3) and get back to you. :thumb:

    Emergency Medical Training was one thing not on the list which my Team Leader did last summer.
     
  10. Dadandgrad

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    I had the pleasure of going to Northern Warfare back in the 80's and had a blast. One week traveling on rivers with a motorboat, one week of technical mountain climbing and one week on a glacier. Flew up early and took a week of leave with a classmate staying in the BOQ at Ft. Wainwright. I honestly don't know how much of what I learned applied to my military career but it was a great experience. It made up for the 4 weeks I sent prior at Ft. Leonardwood, MO! I will add that Airborne School is a good school to attend to "get your ticket punched" and have the airborne wings on your resume and uniform.
     
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    Multiple schools

    Can a cadet participate in multiple summer trainings, like complete both air assault and air bourne school?
     
  12. WAMom68

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    Yes.
     
  13. 2012Cadet

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    Question...should I take Sapper Leader Course now if I plan on being infantry/Ranger/SF? (since I probably won't have a chance to do so when I commission being that it's for combat engineers)...it sounds interesting and they said SF'ers are jacks of all trades and it would be valuable explosives/mountaineering experience.
     
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    Good point. Also - if you pass sapper school while at West Point you actually earn your sapper tab, which is pretty cool.

    My squad leader did his CTLT with Army SF - I've heard of other people getting the opportunity to do theirs with the Rangers. That all sounds sweet.
     
  15. BeatNavy

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    Dude, chill out about all of this. Your a sophomore in high school, focus on high school and getting in to USMA. Then when you get there you can worry about what your summer assignments and exact career path should be.
     
  16. Just_A_Mom

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    BeatNavy is spot on. chill out. who knows what will be available in a couple of years - they change this stuff all the time.
    One thing to keep in mind for summer assignments is your chances of getting what you want will depend on your rank and in some cases your fitness score. The better you do the better chance you have of getting what you want.
    Last summer the vast majority of rising yuks went to Air Assault.

    A lot of cadets don't do a lot of Army schools in the summer - opting to go once they get commissioned. They use their summers for educational purposes instead - traveling abroad etc.
    Females who desire to go to Airborne or Air Assault should seriously consider going as a cadet since their opportunities to go after commissioning are limited.
    Sapper school is extremely difficult to get - but some do go.
     
  17. America's Finest

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    It is possible to pass and not earn the tab. At least that is what I have been told.
     
  18. BeatNavy

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    If you branch Infantry,wont the Army will send you to Airborne or air assault as a LT anyways? That way, as a cadet one might be able to attend some of the other schools not usually available to most JOs (combat diver, northern warfare, etc)
     
  19. America's Finest

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    They will send you to airborne but not air assault unless you're in an air assault unit. I have heard the same advice, not to take airborne and instead choose one of the many other options.
     
  20. perryguy23

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    "Sapper School - This very specialized training in engineering [breeching operations patrolling, etc.] is afforded to a very limited number of Cadets each year. To qualify, Cadets must complete a pre-qualification course during the second semester of their Yearling year. This school is physically and mentally demand and lasts about four weeks. Upon completion the Cadet will be awarded a Sapper tab but this will not be worn until they have their Army Class A's."

    http://www.west-point.org/parent/wppc-alaska/cow.html

    So you cannot wear it while you're at West Point, but you do earn the tab, and for the rest of your career you are Sapper qualified.
     

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