They caught the book thief

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  1. engineer

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    DS and both of his roommates had technical books stolen from their room first semester. They finally apprehended the thief, a 1/C, and estimate that she had stolen close to 400 books. If your mid was one of her recent victims, they recovered nearly 70 books from her car. If the theft was not as recent, there is a chance that your mid will get reimbursed for the cost of the book. Our DS lost a Dynamics book that was close to $200 new and has been sharing a book with another mid in his company.

    It is sad to think that such a bad apple could get in to the academy.......:frown:
     
  2. ESLGuy

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    400 books. If, when I'm a junior, and I apply and get a TWE I will think: a book thief got in, but not me. That is really surprising... 400 books... wow
     
  3. GoBlue1984

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    Think of it this way: worst thing you'll get is a TWE; the book thief will get 6 or 8 years AD enlisted or else pay back the academy. That assumes no time served either. Oh yea, they also don't get a degree.

    My assumption is that it will be a major honor code violation and result in separation of this 1/c cadet. it may be Grand Larceny that results in Leavenworth.:frown:
     
  4. Jason922

    Jason922 Future USNA Candidate '20

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    Where the heck do you put 400 books?
     
  5. kinnem

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    A fire? :rolleyes:
     
  6. USNA2016Dad

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    Online Sales

    My son told us there is a market for used text books that can be bought online.
     
  7. Melitzank

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    Probably sold them.

    Glad they found out who did it. :thumb:

    Sorry to hear that it happened in the first place. :thumbdown:
     
  8. ESLGuy

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    That's one way to look at it. At some interview, I will probably say "well, I won't steal 400 textbooks at the academy..." that would be funny, right?

    That's a lot of time to serve AD, and it was a 1/C. wow
     
  9. USNA2016Dad

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    Most likely, no.
     
  10. majortheta

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    Depends if they know about it. I for one didn't know about it until just now reading about it here.

    Better to say things you WILL do than to say what you WON'T do. :thumb:
     
  11. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    I hope that this is just being sarcastic. Making an arrogant statement or poking fun towards the honor concept (since this was stealing) is one sure way to demonstrate the lack of seriousness for the concept and completely jeopardize your chances for an appointment. There is NOTHING good that can come up from you bringing this up at any SA interview.
     
  12. Luigi59

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    I agree, theft is a crime, regardless of whether the accused is living under an honor code/honor concept or not.

    I also hope they prosecute and not just disenroll the midshipman, as often happens in cases like this (and not just at USNA - CGA cadets all know about a major cash theft last year by a 1/c that led to a disenrollment but no prosecution).
     
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  13. Luigi59

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    Ummm...if two murderers can get in (one at USNA, one at USAFA), nothing should surprise you.
     
  14. bandad

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    Luigi - It's tough getting old, and thanks to google, I remember now...
     
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    The Texas Cadet Murders case in which David Graham, USAFA, and Diana Zamora, USNA, murdered her romantic rival before heading to their respective schools. They were arrested while attending their respective academies. Google it.

    As for this case, the person needs to be held accountable. The Honor Code is paramount. But ask yourself, what kind of person steals that many books? Is it for the thrill of the larceny? Is it an indication of some insecurity?

    Again - I do not buy into any defense that the person has an illness for which this crime can be forgiven.

    Not in my Navy!
     
  16. engineer

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    From what I hear, the academy was "actively" trying to catch this mid, and she fell for the bait. She was escorted out of Bancroft immediately, and I think my DS said she had been arrested. I'll be interested in seeing how this plays out because we are talking about upwards of $40,000 in theft.
     
  17. puzzler

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    I hope GoBlue1984 is wrong about her having to serve AD. That would be an insult to the thousands of enlisted men and women who serve honorably.
     
  18. GoSox

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    There is zero chance she will pay back a commitment by serving active duty -- they don't do that for honor cases any more (and generally not at all, even for someone disenrolled for academics, not conduct or honor issues). This person is facing a world of legal and financial hurt, no need for anyone here to worry that she'll get off lightly.

    And echo usnabgo08's thoughts as to whether it would ever be something to joke about (you may have been being sarcastic, but try to go into a sarcasm free zone in any interviews you have -- there'll be plenty of time at USNA, if that comes to pass, to let that sarcasm run free).
     
  19. ESLGuy

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    That was sarcasm. I am a very sarcastic person, and I think it's appropriate to be sarcastic on an online forum (as long as I don't offend anyone). Now if I was talking to a MOC/BGO, it wouldn't be the best idea. Especially since I am so good at being sarcastic that people think: does he really not know that? Haha.

    Also, for serving AD... If the book thief was forced to, then isn't that like comparing AD to jail? That seems wrong, in a way. Serving one's country isn't a requirement or a punishment. I'm glad they don't do it anymore.
     
  20. DictatorDom14

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    Why would somebody throw away such an amazing opportunity, especially as someone who was about to graduate, for selling stolen books? It doesn't make any sense; why even do it?
     

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