Tough Day for Service Academy Football

scoutpilot said:
Exactly. Pretty simple concept, really. As a cadet, I said we. The Corps owns Army football. Not the grads. Or the parents. Or the straphangers.

I'm happy to support them. But the Corps gets to say "we."
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I wonder how much of that Corps pays to send cadets to away football games. "Yes sir, may WE have another?"
 
Please heed Bruno's message. Saturday was a tough day for SA football. Let's leave it at that.
 
Luigi59 said:
Impossible.

The loser of the Army-Navy is guaranteed at least 1 more loss (giving them 6) and the best they would be able to reach is .500 (not a winning record).
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I consider that still potentially a winning record. If they are 6 and 6 they are bowl eligible, and thus able to finish 7-6. Air force on the other hand can't do that. They need 7-5 because they played 2 AA teams and can't count both. But I consider bowl eligible and a bowl win, a winning season.
 
I would be referring to the fact that while the Corps may claim the football team for all their own. They don't pay for the coach. They don't pay to go to the away games. They benefit from the gifts of others. Do they want to deny those who have invested themselves financially or are they willing to concede that alumni and maybe even a few non-alums have some claim? I would maintain an alum who graduated and served has a greater claim to the team than a 4/c cadet who fails out after a year. Short term, sure it's his, but in the grand scheme, it's more that alum who graduated in 1956 than the kid who's spent a year getting yelled at, especially if that alum spent 4 years at the academy, graduated, served and has given $50,000 over his life time to support the team that was once "his".


That said, I don't call the Coast Guard Academy football team "we". It's certainly "my" team, as in I cheer for them and pull for them against anyone else. Those cadets are hoping to be worthy of the traditions of commissioned officers...not the other way around.

There is little to know identity around the Coast Guard with the Coast Guard Academy, with the exception of alumni. Many Coasties have never seen a cadet.

scoutpilot said:
You lost me...
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scoutpilot said:
Awww, sour grapes!
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Ha! It's movies like this that lead to disappointment by cadets during their first year.

It's a school. Kids will do bad things in the barracks. Kids will lie. Kids will get kicked out. Not all of their classmates will get along. Not everyone will be there for the right reasons.

It's not all sister and mothers crying, buzz cuts, kids in uniforms telling people about things they have yet to experience in the real military.


The reality is far less Showtime ready, and for me, far more inspirational in the end. If my time at an academy was shaped around some TV exec's idea of what an academy should be, I would be far less impressed by my classmates.
 
LineInTheSand said:
Ha! It's movies like this that lead to disappointment by cadets during their first year.

It's a school. Kids will do bad things in the barracks. Kids will lie. Kids will get kicked out. Not all of their classmates will get along. Not everyone will be there for the right reasons.

It's not all sister and mothers crying, buzz cuts, kids in uniforms telling people about things they have yet to experience in the real military.


The reality is far less Showtime ready, and for me, far more inspirational in the end. If my time at an academy was shaped around some TV exec's idea of what an academy should be, I would be far less impressed by my classmates.
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While I still give you "sour grapes" points about the game, I couldn't agree more about Academy life. :biggrin:
 
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