Discussion in 'Academy/Military News' started by luckymacy, Mar 22, 2011.
This hits very close to home for Bullet and I since the F15E community was our life for 13 yrs.
Thank God that we have such a great military that we can rely on each and every branch in time of need.
My deepest thanks go out to the Marines for extracting them to safety.
We have lived through this, unfortunately too many times, and I can tell you even SJAFB an Mt Home were holding their breaths like Lakenheath. The Strike community is small, they all know each other. It touches everyone to their core.
Thank you Marines. Thank you.
I'm sure they were glad to see the Osprey. I'm sure they heard it about an hour before they saw it (very loud airplane).
They say there are three things that are worthless to a pilot: altitude above you, runway behind you, and gas in the truck. I have to say that an aircraft which has, of its own accord, decided it no longer wants to be part of your flight is probably at the top of that list.
Glad they're safe, and hopefully none the worse for wear.
I believe the WSO has some injuries, but because of the design for the 15E that is not shocking at all due to the design of the plane.
There are now discrepancies coming out on who rescued them.
1. Special Ops -Army
2. Osprey and Marines
I am just glad they are on their way to Germany.
It's amazing how intact the plane is.
I am speculating, but I would imagine the closest assets to the ejection sites would come from off the coast -- Navy and Marine Corps team.
Great job on all involved -- not just the military.
Wow scoutpilot, your ignorance on this is pretty bad. Since I get to hear V-22s and helicopters fairly regulary and often and hear from soldiers in the field who get taxied around in them and aircrews that fly them I can tell you you're statement couldn't be any further from factual. V-22s are overall a LOT quieter than any typical military helicopter that could be doing the same type of mission with and that's just the least of why it's better for TRAP (Tactical Recovery of Aircraft and Personnel) or CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) than today's helicopters. But that's just not my opinion, do some fact checking if you can handle it. Here's one source
The MV-22 has several characteristics likely to reduce the overall susceptibility of the combat assault team as compared to the current rotary wing alternatives. The range and speed of the V-22 provide distinct advantages that reduce the exposure to en route threats. With good information as to threat locations, the MV-22 can use its range advantage to fly around threats. The increased speed of the MV-22 ensures that the MV-22 will remain in a threat envelope for a lesser time period than would the helicopter platform. In addition, the ability of the MV-22 to decelerate rapidly when approaching a landing zone and to accelerate rapidly when leaving a landing zone offer reduced exposure to local threats. The MV-22 in the airplane mode is distinctly quieter than are existing helicopters, and therefore provide far less cueing to local threats that the aircraft is approaching.
Only Air Force and Marine Corps have CV/MV-22s. I've flown in a 22....a blast.
Ditto -- news reporter onboard KEARSARGE reported that one 22 originated from the big deck amphib with a 12 man Marine TRAP team and recovered one pilot. Navy-Marine Corps team effort--Marines made the recovery but definitely helps to have a floating pad, not too far offshore, with medical facilities! Not sure how the other pilot was rescued.
Whatever the internet tells you, sport. I only shared a ramp with them for 15 months in Iraq. How would I know?
I think that the key phrase in that extract from global security is: "in the Airplane mode" which means on take off and landing they make no claims about it being quieter than a normal rotary wing aircraft? You can both claim to be right if you wish. It's kind of a foolish bit of nitpicking to be arguing about here folks.
Regardless- it's good to hear that they got the aircrew out.
Yes, the whole remark was a tongue-in-cheek poke at the 22, since they used to rattle our fillings loose when they started their transition as they crossed the approach end of the taxiway. In vertical flight, it's louder than any rotary wing I've ever heard, with perhaps the exception of a 47 or 53 at MGW. Most folks don't realize that majority of the sound signature from a single-rotor RW aircraft isn't the main rotor, but the tail rotor. Coasties can probably tell you how much quieter a Dauphin is than a Jayhawk. A ducted tailfan makes a world of difference. As for the main rotor, tip design makes a big difference.
By the by...don't trust globalsecurity too fully. Anyone who knows their respective combat system can pull up a globalsecurity page on said system and find tons of out-of-date info. Some of what they publish is what the defense industry wishes their products could do reliably.
Anywho...back on topic. Two brave aviators executed their emergency procedure properly and are now safely back among their comrades.
After looking at pictures of the wreckage with people crawling all over it, I wonder: will the US military let the wreck sit there or will we come in and drag it out? I would think that there could be some pretty sensitive technology inside that we might not want just any random rebel or opposition guy to get his hands on
Praise God that the crew is safe....
JMPO, but I doubt they will go in and drag it out. Looking at the wreckage I don't see anything that could be considered a security issue. It was burned to smithereans.
Oh the sweet sweet MH-65 Dophin.....not only is it relatively quiet, it has a pretty purring whistle, the older engines whistled a little more than the new ones. Yes, Dolphins are much quieter than Jayhawks and kick up less rotor wash.
I heard that the one who was rescued by the Libyans got some hugs.
just a general question, how reliable are F-15’s relative to other fighters?
I’m also glad to hear they are out safe!
Aircraft, like any other mechanical vehicle, can suffer problems that can at times be catastrophic. I've had engines "shell out" (tear themselves apart) because a tiny little part "broke/wore out/was damaged."
I wouldn't try to "second guess" anything on this jet in Libya until the AF does a thorough investigation and has more information as to what happened.
Oh I wasn’t second guessing anything. I was simply curious to see if the F-15 was known for anything, thats all.
Having rode in a Dolphin, I can verify that. very quiet, neat helicopter
So glad they're safe....not to be insensitive, but does anyone know if they'll do an analysis on why the mechanical failure happened?
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