Agreed! Wild tangent ensued. Clearly emotions are frayed.I am following this thread hoping to get some interesting discussion about being wait listed. Respectfully, can this side discussion start your own thread? Thank you.
I can't speak to any thing other than what I witnessed and it was an empowering moment and nothing so deeply personal was used.I don't think we are going to agree on that. I don't believe that the student that will be ostracized will agree with you. So, maybe we just have to agree to disagree. I personally don't think race or economic class holds a person back. We all have struggles but I don't think humiliating a student or any student helps.
This is NOT true about me but I will use myself as an example. Let's say I am a relapsing drug addict and I am in and out or rehab. Would I want my DD or DS used as a prop to show either DS or DD has "struggles" at home? Either one would be mortified at being used like that. That belongs with family, close friends or a doctor. Not in a classroom with young students or even high school students! That is an invasion of a persona's privacy.
Not everyone wants to tell everyone else their "struggles". I don't see any of my "struggles" to be the business of someone in a class if I was a student or as an adult. It really puts kids on the spot and it is unfair to do that to them. Perhaps we just disagree on this. I simply find this offensive and a huge invasion of a person's privacy.
Sorry! This did get off topic!Agreed! Wild tangent ensued. Clearly emotions are frayed.
That sounds like a plan to me!Always hopeful! We need to start a "We're not going to take it anymore" thread on a yet to be in existence site called "Publicschoolforums.com" LOL! Apologies to USNAVY and best of luck on the waitlist!
A follow up: When I picked her up from school after the "Privilege Walk" she said, "Mom, the only way it could've been worse was if I was a male." OUCH!
That night, my DH and I took the "privilege walk" based on where we were at her age (14). She was shocked to see how "non-privileged" I was. Parents divorced. 5 different elementary schools, blah blah blah. . . mind you--all things I NEVER EVEN KNEW MADE ME "NON-PRIVILEGED"--it was GREAT for my DD to see that neither parents were "advantaged" and she thanked us so much for providing a better life for her and her sibs. So, in the end, you are correct--it's what the parents model that truly teaches the lessons. I'll be damned if I'm going to turn my kids over to their "educators" to do this job!
Lol, thank you nodiva. Ahhh....to have a crystal ball right now. I'd even be happy with somebody telling me how many kids are on the wait list and historically, how many kids on average get pulled off the wait list and given an Appointment. Oh, and I'd really be happy to know what number my DS is on the waitlist. Think that's too much to ask? (now that's one question I do know the answer to, lol.)
Thank you very much for some information, as dismal as it may be. My DS has been in touch with his BGO, but I don't believe with the admissions counselor. Should I advise him to contact that person?Back on topic... The wait list letter in the past listed the number on it. In recent years it was around 75-100 (I think the highest I have seen is ~120). I am not sure they ever tell a candidate what number they are (or if they even rank them) on the list or if they start at #1 and go down the list. A question for the admissions counselor. The last few years the number has been very low pulled off the wait list, not sure on exact number, but from looking at the forums, its been single digits. USNA's yield has been fairly high and ~2 years ago it was incredibly high. It over shot their target appointment numbers by alot and I am not sure anyone got off the list that year. If the admissions counselor gives us any updated information let us know! Good luck.
I am not sure they ever tell a candidate what number they are (or if they even rank them) on the list or if they start at #1 and go down the list.
Thank you very much!The wait list isn't "ranked." As the number of additional vacancies (if, any) become available...they begin looking at all of the wait-listed candidates "whole person" attributes and make decisions that way. Thus, if you do have additional credentials or updated grades...you should send them, as they MIGHT be considered.
I wouldn't contact the Admissions counselor at this point. Nothing is going to happen until at least May. I would wait until the mid-to-end of April if nothing has been received.
Thank you very much for some information, as dismal as it may be. My DS has been in touch with his BGO, but I don't believe with the admissions counselor. Should I advise him to contact that person?
My understanding is zero have been taken from the wait list over the last 2 years. I also have noted that those still on CPR may have the full range of options yet in front of them - Appointment, NAPS, Foundation and Wait List, whereas the Wait List candidates only have one option and that is others declining appointment. My question is this - with so many still CPR, is the wait list the deepest option for USNA? I.E. if we don't offer you an appointment you will get NAPS or Foundation and if those are full we will put you on the wait list?
My understanding is zero have been taken from the wait list over the last 2 years. I also have noted that those still on CPR may have the full range of options yet in front of them - Appointment, NAPS, Foundation and Wait List, whereas the Wait List candidates only have one option and that is others declining appointment. My question is this - with so many still CPR, is the wait list the deepest option for USNA? I.E. if we don't offer you an appointment you will get NAPS or Foundation and if those are full we will put you on the wait list?
Thank you for this insightful and logical response. Makes sense. If USNA didn't think they needed a Wait List, they wouldn't have one.The Class of 2018, due to the combination of it being a Congressional redistricting year, an unusually high acceptance rate from MOC slates, and too many early early appointment offers before many MOC slates were submitted, forming a perfect storm, it resulted in few slots opening after April 15th. Even so, calls were made, including to my now 3C Mid. The good news for the Class of 2020, Admissions learns from experience and sets the wait list size each year by what they believe they will probably need. So, yes, depending on how well they predicted this years acceptance rate, an offer still remains reasonably probable. I am rooting for you all.