Politics and academy life

What about the professors though? The thing I hate about High School is when the history/government teachers allow their political bias to influence the class a lot.

Listening to the views of educated people is a positive, regardless of their ideology.

And certainly hasn’t detracted from my son’s education in any way. Small sample size I know so take it fwiw.
 
Listening to the views of educated people is a positive, regardless of their ideology.

And certainly hasn’t detracted from my son’s education in any way. Small sample size I know so take it fwiw.
Yes, I know, but there is a different listening to a President or Senator and knowing that his/her point of view represents one ideology and one to listen to and respect, but also be a critical thinker on compared to a teacher who might present one point of view as a fact and leaves out a whole section of history or perspective that you only learn later on via the news or the internet.
 
What about the professors though? The thing I hate about High School is when the history/government teachers allow their political bias to influence the class a lot.
It really is not as big of a problem as you would think in most cases at university. Most professors will avoid politics and some will have some sort of political bias. That is why it is essential for you to read the readings assigned to you and formulate an opinion for yourself. It does you no good if you have not done the reading and you cannot back up your own stance. This is just what I have seen at college. There have been some unruly professors that I have come across at university, but they tend to lay off if you converse with them instead of confronting them.
 
Yes, I know, but there is a different listening to a President or Senator and knowing that his/her point of view represents one ideology and one to listen to and respect, but also be a critical thinker on compared to a teacher who might present one point of view as a fact and leaves out a whole section of history or perspective that you only learn later on via the news or the internet.
These professors are teaching physics and calculus etc. they aren’t teaching politics.
 
My first master's is in public administration which is part political science, part management, and part history. We had to read the works of Karl Marx yet they weren't teaching us to be Marxists.
I understand. I'm just getting frustrated with how the partisan political games of Washington have become so prevalent. Too often, people live in different political alternative realities and we can't have productive and meaningful discussions/disagreements since those conversations often turn into everyone trying to instill and advance their political views on others.
 
I understand. I'm just getting frustrated with how the partisan political games of Washington have become so prevalent. Too often, people live in different political alternative realities and we can't have productive and meaningful discussions/disagreements since those conversations often turn into everyone trying to instill and advance their political views on others.

So hold yourself to the same standard with your views. Pay attention to what Capt MJ wrote.
 
Conservative views are certainly looked down upon by those who are vocal about politics here. However, this is only the case because the conservative mids aren't vocal about their views.

USNA is probably 50/50 left to right leaning, but 80/20 left to right in terms of vocality (is that a word?). If you do what you're supposed to and avoid politics you will have zero issues.


This is what I've observed over the last 1.7ish years (subtract the six months I was at home). It really isn't a issue either way.
Not surprised to hear you say that (50/50 vs 80/20). It sounds much like the world in general has seemed in recent years.
 
I understand. I'm just getting frustrated with how the partisan political games of Washington have become so prevalent. Too often, people live in different political alternative realities and we can't have productive and meaningful discussions/disagreements since those conversations often turn into everyone trying to instill and advance their political views on others.
Try not to let it bother you. I teach in public education, high school, and stay in my gray man character. My only confidants are a white woman, a gay Salvadorian, and a female Puerto Rican. We can and do talk about anything and everything. Everyone else gets Doc Neutral.
 
I understand. I'm just getting frustrated with how the partisan political games of Washington have become so prevalent. Too often, people live in different political alternative realities and we can't have productive and meaningful discussions/disagreements since those conversations often turn into everyone trying to instill and advance their political views on others.
I would not worry about it to much. You might come across a couple of bad eggs at a civilian university, but at a service academy it would be very unlikely. As was said above, these professors have to have a masters degree (most will even have a PhD) and be experts on their topics to teach at a university. It is a lot different from high school.

In my time in college I have only came across one professor who was out of line. This professor said "I do not know what you read in your racist or white supremacist news sources, but here is how it really is..." Keep in mind we were not even discussing politics and I said nothing that would warrant this response. The entire class also found it amusing and I was left embarrassed and ridiculed over nothing. That evening I sent an email to that professor, with the department head attached, describing the approximate 1500 hours of volunteering I have completed to help feed over 2 million impoverished Americans. I said something along the lines of if I was a true racist, I would not go out of my way to ensure every American has a meal on their table. She apologized soon after in front of the class and explained how she was in the wrong.

You may not be interested in my experience, but it serves a purpose. If you are faced with someone who is completely out of line, it does you no good to insult them or ridicule them. Being professional and ensuring your opinion is heard in a respectful manner is the only option and it is a path that will earn you more friends than enemies. This same professor who practically called me a racist in front of the whole class also praised my final essay and I ended up getting the highest grade in the class.
 
I always enjoyed the professors you couldn't figure out. And let me say, enjoy it, because outside of school it doesn't feel as fun or as pure. One of the things I enjoyed experiencing back in grad school (years after finishing undergrad) was engaging in the discussions.
 
To the question raised by OP: I’ve never seen it be an issue. The truth is almost nobody here cares what your political beliefs are as long as you uphold your oath to the Constitution. I really don’t think whether you have left or right leaning views affects anything that happens to you at the Academy. I couldn’t tell you what the politcal stances are of most of my friends, acquaintances, or Chain of Command—I don’t know how they vote and I don’t care.

The only thing that bothers people is if you’re preachy about your beliefs. I think most people find that annoying in general but especially in a military setting it’s considered unprofessional. Liberal, conservative, other, nobody gives a rats tail unless you’re disloyal to the Constitution. Do your job, go home, and everyone’s happy. (Okay maybe not happy, but you get the idea).
 
Service Academy Nominations should not be political in any way in my opinion, just to put that out there.
And for 99% of the MOCs it isn’t. I haven’t seen political party of a candidate or their family impact things yet. Does it happen? Sure, somewhere it does. Don’t assume that because you or your family vote one way it eliminates you. I have sat on multiple MOC panels, not once has that come up.
 
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