2/C struggling to pass the 1.5 mile PRT

I’ll chime in and provide a similar suggestion regarding pacing as comment above. DD struggles self-pacing so now she’s been using her Apple Watch to help pace her during her training runs. There is a custom workout you can set up that starts to alert you if you are falling behind pace.
Good luck!
 
I recall looking at a thread last term about a 3/C struggling with passing the PRT who was boarded. The thread seemed to have some good advice mixed in, especially with respect to how to approach a board. Posting the link below.

Anecdotally, I've heard stories of MIDN who struggled with the PRT and then were boarded and separated during 2/C year thereby incurring an obligation to pay the Navy back for their education. I don't think USNA does anyone a favor by keeping them into 2/C year when they have struggled with the PRT time and again over their first two years at the Naval Academy. Then again, I assume that there must be an occasional success story or I would anticipate that Navy would not allow any exception to the rule. Good luck to your DS with a favorable resolution!

https://www.serviceacademyforums.co...dvice-for-parent-of-mid-going-to-board.90578/
 
I would second the suggestion to enlist a roomie or bestie as a pace setter. It’s also a morale booster. DS didn’t find running his strength. Could max the rest with eyes closed.

Take advantage of offers of a bestie or roomie or company mate being a pace setter. I truly believe that at the rate of physical fitness these young men and women find themselves, that this is a 95% mental game.
 
dddad said:
I recall looking at a thread last term about a 3/C struggling with passing the PRT who was boarded. The thread seemed to have some good advice mixed in, especially with respect to how to approach a board. Posting the link below.

Anecdotally, I've heard stories of MIDN who struggled with the PRT and then were boarded and separated during 2/C year thereby incurring an obligation to pay the Navy back for their education. I don't think USNA does anyone a favor by keeping them into 2/C year when they have struggled with the PRT time and again over their first two years at the Naval Academy. Then again, I assume that there must be an occasional success story or I would anticipate that Navy would not allow any exception to the rule. Good luck to your DS with a favorable resolution!

https://www.serviceacademyforums.co...dvice-for-parent-of-mid-going-to-board.90578/
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Thank you!
 
takedown1978 said:
My 2/C has struggled ro pass the running portion of the PRT for the last 3 years. His best time is barely passing at 10 min, 29 seconds. Last year he failed twice, only a few seconds short each time. His efforts to pass have been exemplary. He joined the remedial running group and runs with them 3-4 times a week, met with trainers, works out daily, and still struggles to pass. At the end of youngster year, he was scheduled to meet with the "board" for review. Without actually going in front of them, they reviewed his file. Because he's a good student and had great remarks from his XO's and CO's they decided on allowing him to continue his service. Fast forward to 2/C year, he passed the PRT in the fall and now once again failed the PRT this spring. He was 3 seconds short. We're afraid that this time he will have to face consequences. Our hearts are broken. We are hoping for the best, but preparing ourselves for the worst. In the event they let him go, is there a path to continue his education? He still wants to be an officer no matter what. We're really lost and confused on how this will end. He's already 22 years old and 4 years in (he went to NAPS). Are there any schools that will accept him and transfer credits? If he decides to go into ROTC, will he have to start from the beginning? Not really sure what to do at this point. Any advice or knowledge of this matter is greatly appreciated.
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My advice would be find a track jock who can coach him and help him figure out how to improve his technique, wind speed and endurance. I suspect he can do it if he gets the right help. Good luck you you and him.
 
I own two good sized fitness clubs, (wish I didn’t…………………... but you live and you learn).

I know a fair amount of folks in the fitness industry, they keep me in touch with industry trends. Keeping it simple; COFFEE increases energy and endurance w/o significant the negatives that sometimes come from other more aggressive supplements. 1 or 2 strong cups of strong black coffee 15-20mins before the run really should cover a 3 second short fall over a 1.5 mile run. My managing partner keeps a pot of the stuff in our lounges for members who want an edge to power through work-outs.

Coaching will help, investigating a mental block could be a huge help for this hurtle and future ones, but I’d also try a simple “cup-a joe”.

Best of luck to you, people here have a sense for how you and your mid must be feeling. I think we are all pulling for you, I know I am.
 
Just Dad said:
I own two good sized fitness clubs, (wish I didn’t…………………... but you live and you learn).

I know a fair amount of folks in the fitness industry, they keep me in touch with industry trends. Keeping it simple; COFFEE increases energy and endurance w/o significant the negatives that sometimes come from other more aggressive supplements. 1 or 2 strong cups of strong black coffee 15-20mins before the run really should cover a 3 second short fall over a 1.5 mile run. My managing partner keeps a pot of the stuff in our lounges for members who want an edge to power through work-outs.

Coaching will help, investigating a mental block could be a huge help for this hurtle and future ones, but I’d also try a simple “cup-a joe”.

Best of luck to you, people here have a sense for how you and your mid must be feeling. I think we are all pulling for you, I know I am.
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Wow, I noticed that in my workout, did not know it is a thing. I do stationary bike for cardio and got my best time after coffee. Good thing I did not measure Heartbeats/minute or I might get scared, lol.
 
Just Dad said:
I own two good sized fitness clubs, (wish I didn’t…………………... but you live and you learn).

I know a fair amount of folks in the fitness industry, they keep me in touch with industry trends. Keeping it simple; COFFEE increases energy and endurance w/o significant the negatives that sometimes come from other more aggressive supplements. 1 or 2 strong cups of strong black coffee 15-20mins before the run really should cover a 3 second short fall over a 1.5 mile run. My managing partner keeps a pot of the stuff in our lounges for members who want an edge to power through work-outs.

Coaching will help, investigating a mental block could be a huge help for this hurtle and future ones, but I’d also try a simple “cup-a joe”.

Best of luck to you, people here have a sense for how you and your mid must be feeling. I think we are all pulling for you, I know I am.
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Try this at your own risk. Coffee also relaxes your bowels. Ok if you are in a gym environment, not good out on the road 1/2 mile from the nearest loo. There’s a reason why you never shake the hand of a runner wearing one sock….
 
Re the risks of Coffee:
During my first year of grad school I developed a distinct grey tint to my complexion, my body temp went down just over 2 degrees and I just felt like crap. I let it go a few days before walking into “Hall Health” on campus. Doc walks in looks at me/talks to me and asks what I am studying, I tell the Doc I am a first year law student. ……………………... He nods and asks “how much coffee are you drinking each day?”

Hmmmm?🙄 Split a 64oz pot in the AM with my room mate…... 6+ 8oz cups with other students BSing and talking thru cases during class breaks at the “HUB” (student union bldg) over the course of the day…... A 24oz carried into each afternoon class to stay awake (3x)…...Then that last split of that 64 zoz pot with the room mate in the evening to support study. I rolled it all up in my head; “somewhere around 1.5 Gallons” I said. Doc said: "maybe that’s too much??” I got better right away.:cool:.

Coffee abuse? been there done that; never a “mudslide” issue though. 1-2 cups 15-20mins before a run shouldn’t be a problem; but I’m thinking that if someone is feeling “a call to action” at 1 mile in; they might run that last 1/2 mile pretty darn fast!
 
Just Dad said:
Re the risks of Coffee:
During my first year of grad school I developed a distinct grey tint to my complexion, my body temp went down just over 2 degrees and I just felt like crap. I let it go a few days before walking into “Hall Health” on campus. Doc walks in looks at me/talks to me and asks what I am studying, I tell the Doc I am a first year law student. ……………………... He nods and asks “how much coffee are you drinking each day?”

Hmmmm?🙄 Split a 64oz pot in the AM with my room mate…... 6+ 8oz cups with other students BSing and talking thru cases during class breaks at the “HUB” (student union bldg) over the course of the day…... A 24oz carried into each afternoon class to stay awake (3x)…...Then that last split of that 64 zoz pot with the room mate in the evening to support study. I rolled it all up in my head; “somewhere around 1.5 Gallons” I said. Doc said: "maybe that’s too much??” I got better right away.:cool:.

Coffee abuse? been there done that; never a “mudslide” issue though. 1-2 cups 15-20mins before a run shouldn’t be a problem; but I’m thinking that if someone is feeling “a call to action” at 1 mile in; they might run that last 1/2 mile pretty darn fast!
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I love coffee. I am happily devoted to it every day. I can not imagine, under any circumstances drinking that much coffee in one day ever.
I could barely drink that much in beer back then.
 
You could always just buy some caffeinated Gu (energy gel). IIRC from the days I was sponsored by them, a Gu shot has somewhere in the 40 - 80mg range in the ones with caffeine (not all flavors have it, read the label). I used to take one at 45 minutes before race starts, and another at 15 minutes to go.
 
IronmanDaremo said:
You could always just buy some caffeinated Gu (energy gel). IIRC from the days I was sponsored by them, a Gu shot has somewhere in the 40 - 80mg range in the ones with caffeine (not all flavors have it, read the label). I used to take one at 45 minutes before race starts, and another at 15 minutes to go.
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x2 on the Gu gels. Very quick and easy caffeine jolt.
 
As a current mid and 2/C, the biggest recommendation I can give is finding a partner if you are struggling with the PRT. Especially one that runs faster than you do. A partner helps in many ways. They push you to run faster than you usually do which is how you get better and they call you out when you are not putting in 100% Also, you can run the prt with a pacer and partner so that you know if you are falling behind pace. The remedial team is good, but it is not enough. You should be doing long runs and intervals outside of the remedials to focus on endurance and speed.

There are reasons to be hopeful. Your DS has a good reputation if his chain of command put in a good word for him. I’ve known people who have failed three PRTs and were retained during a PE board. Not all is lost, but those people I knew worked their butt off physically to give the board a reason to stay. Good luck and I hope for the best.
 
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