Trying to figure out when the 2 for 7 signing might be for the class of 2026 this fall. 3rd block ends on Aug 14 and based on last years schedule it would appear the signing happens the next day - Aug 15. Classes start Aug 19 according to the calendar. Does anyone know the confirmed date yet and also do you know if they have Liberty after signing and until that Sunday night before classes begin. Thanks in advance !
2 for 7 signing for class of 26
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IronmanDaremo
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I think it has to happen before classes start, so your timeline sounds about right.
I doubt my kid would know. I don't think they've announced anything yet. But I can check?
I doubt my kid would know. I don't think they've announced anything yet. But I can check?
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Legally, it does not have to happen. USNA classes went for decades without any signing a document but everyone knew that legally,
attending the first class of 2/C year was the act that committed the mid to the next 7 years.
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I think "legally" is that reason that it now happens. 
I have no doubt that, in the past, the US government asked some 2/C or 1/C who quit or was told to leave to pay back his/her education. That person's lawyer said, "Show me where my client agreed in writing (or even orally) to obligate him/herself to pay back." The government said, "Well, it was understood . . ." That doesn't cut it in court.
[As an aside, I 100% agree that it was understood in our day. One of my classmates didn't start 2/C classes for 3 days trying to decide (he ultimately stayed in for 30 years and promoted to O-6, so go figure). However, that understanding might not stand up if challenged in a court.]
There MAY be something in the I-Day paperwork, but the lawyer would have said that: (1) the plebe is so overwhelmed that day that s/he will sign anything put in front of them (which is true) and / or that (2) it was 2+ years ago and no reminder, etc. since that time (also true).
So, now they make it VERY clear and thus near impossible to challenge on the "I didn't know/realize" grounds.
As for today's ceremony, I thought USNA hosted an on-site party. "Safer" than granting liberty. Just saying . . .
I have no doubt that, in the past, the US government asked some 2/C or 1/C who quit or was told to leave to pay back his/her education. That person's lawyer said, "Show me where my client agreed in writing (or even orally) to obligate him/herself to pay back." The government said, "Well, it was understood . . ." That doesn't cut it in court.[As an aside, I 100% agree that it was understood in our day. One of my classmates didn't start 2/C classes for 3 days trying to decide (he ultimately stayed in for 30 years and promoted to O-6, so go figure). However, that understanding might not stand up if challenged in a court.]
There MAY be something in the I-Day paperwork, but the lawyer would have said that: (1) the plebe is so overwhelmed that day that s/he will sign anything put in front of them (which is true) and / or that (2) it was 2+ years ago and no reminder, etc. since that time (also true).
So, now they make it VERY clear and thus near impossible to challenge on the "I didn't know/realize" grounds.
As for today's ceremony, I thought USNA hosted an on-site party. "Safer" than granting liberty. Just saying . . .
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I think "legally" is that reason that it now happens.
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This is one of those low key, company celebrated, moments. Some companies don’t even allow photographers or phones (
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Both of my guys were very intentional n this moment. It carried the most weight on their shoulders. Iday, they had no clue what they were doing, or about to enter into. Especially ones from a non military family.
But this one is their affirmation of what they are entering into. They have two years of military exposure. They have lost classmates. They know upperclass doing real military things. Perhaps they (mine did) know of upperclass who have been killed in the line of duty. And they have classmates who are choosing to not sign. Its all very REAL now.
This is them affirming that they are signing up for all of this, of their own free well. Up until this point, they can walk away.
It’s pretty powerful. According to both of my guys. And it’s a proud moment for moms and dads.
Congrats, C/O ‘26 (almost…about 5 more months).
). So no pics.Both of my guys were very intentional n this moment. It carried the most weight on their shoulders. Iday, they had no clue what they were doing, or about to enter into. Especially ones from a non military family.
But this one is their affirmation of what they are entering into. They have two years of military exposure. They have lost classmates. They know upperclass doing real military things. Perhaps they (mine did) know of upperclass who have been killed in the line of duty. And they have classmates who are choosing to not sign. Its all very REAL now.
This is them affirming that they are signing up for all of this, of their own free well. Up until this point, they can walk away.
It’s pretty powerful. According to both of my guys. And it’s a proud moment for moms and dads.
Congrats, C/O ‘26 (almost…about 5 more months).
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I think I like the current approach -- proving that the "good old days" aren't always better. IMO, it should be an affirmative decision made by adults with knowledge upon reflection, if for no other reason than the potential financial ramifications are significant. Doing it with your classmates creates some of the unique bonds that make SAs so special. We had a great "2 for 7" class party at Dahlgren (of course, we were all of legal drinking age (18)). Another great memory!
What I do wish is that USNA treated those who've signed (2/c and above) differently than those who haven't yet done so. My understanding was that, in our day, at West Point, 2/c and above were treated much more like "future officers" in terms of how faculty and staff interacted with them. They were now members of "Team Army" in a way that those who had yet to commit were not. I liked that, in concept at least. Don't know if this is still the case at USMA or whether the approach has changed at USNA. In my day, I didn't see any visible change in treatment b/t 3/c and 2/c.
What I do wish is that USNA treated those who've signed (2/c and above) differently than those who haven't yet done so. My understanding was that, in our day, at West Point, 2/c and above were treated much more like "future officers" in terms of how faculty and staff interacted with them. They were now members of "Team Army" in a way that those who had yet to commit were not. I liked that, in concept at least. Don't know if this is still the case at USMA or whether the approach has changed at USNA. In my day, I didn't see any visible change in treatment b/t 3/c and 2/c.