4 USAFA seniors may not graduate because of COVID shot mandate

[ECOSSE]

The military is all about obeying legal orders, even if you don’t like the order. My understanding is that the order to get the COVID vaccination is a legal order. Those who don't want to obey it (in any service) should be gone. You can't have military members deciding which orders to obey or not obey. Just can't happen.

I'm actually ok with the cadets getting their diplomas, since they presumably have met the educational requirements, though I would want them to pay back the cost of that education. So, they are allowed to stand on their principles, but that decision has consequences, as most do.

You might want to take a look at this... https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-05/Moseley Press Release.pdf Unlawful order?

 

[JP4]

Article today regarding a Navy LT who refused vaccine because it wasn't the FDA approved version.

Navy lieutenant who refused vaccine cleared of misconduct, will remain in service

In a unanimous decision, a Navy administrative board has found that alieutenant who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 did not commit misconduct by doing so. Attorney R. Davis Younts, who represented thelieutenant at the hearings, announced the board's decision in a statement to The...

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Have been saying this for 10 months in locked thread after locked thread.

Agree with how it was done or not the FDA approval means something. The Navy (and all of USA) has had 10 months to use the FDA approved versions and they have not. Why is that?

The Navy can get around that by having the President Biden mandate that EUA vaccines be used. He has not. Why is that?

The "lawful order" mentioned so often here was to use the FDA approved vaccines. So where are they?

If you refuse to take an EUA vaccine in place of a mandated FDA approved vaccine are you really refusing a lawful order? No, you are not.

This is before you even hit the exemptions part. This is the basic we don't have what we mandated but want to hold you accountable for not taking what we don't have part.

 

[a400831]

Article today regarding a Navy LT who refused vaccine because it wasn't the FDA approved version.

Navy lieutenant who refused vaccine cleared of misconduct, will remain in service

In a unanimous decision, a Navy administrative board has found that alieutenant who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 did not commit misconduct by doing so. Attorney R. Davis Younts, who represented thelieutenant at the hearings, announced the board's decision in a statement to The...

wpde.com

Have been saying this for 10 months in locked thread after locked thread.

Agree with how it was done or not the FDA approval means something. The Navy (and all of USA) has had 10 months to use the FDA approved versions and they have not. Why is that?

The Navy can get around that by having the President Biden mandate that EUA vaccines be used. He has not. Why is that?

The "lawful order" mentioned so often here was to use the FDA approved vaccines. So where are they?

If you refuse to take an EUA vaccine in place of a mandated FDA approved vaccine are you really refusing a lawful order? No, you are not.

This is before you even hit the exemptions part. This is the basic we don't have what we mandated but want to hold you accountable for not taking what we don't have part.

Do you know what this Lt won’t be able to do until getting the shot? Deploy. If you can’t deploy, you are a cog slowing down the machine.

Im sorry, but I have seen so many requests for exemptions over the past year and not a single one was based in facts or true religious beliefs. I have seen people take their 5th anthrax booster without blinking then try to get out of the COVID shot.

I don’t need people who can’t deploy. I need people who can deploy to an island nation in the pacific to posture against the real threat. I’m gonna say a very unpopular opinion but I firmly believe in it: We don’t have time for this. Don’t want the vax? There’s the door. I will train someone else to do your job. Everyone is replaceable.

 

[Pluto]

Apologies because this information was technically already stated, however, I just read through this thread in its entirety for the firs time, and I just wanted to point out that

a. One of the four cadets has since received the vaccine and will commission. Cheers!
b. The other three will still graduate with their respective Bachelor's!

Despite the tones of this thread, lets not forget to celebrate the small wins. And let us also celebrate bacon, because it pairs well with Mac & Cheese.

 

[OldRetSWO]

Article today regarding a Navy LT who refused vaccine because it wasn't the FDA approved version.

Navy lieutenant who refused vaccine cleared of misconduct, will remain in service

In a unanimous decision, a Navy administrative board has found that alieutenant who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 did not commit misconduct by doing so. Attorney R. Davis Younts, who represented thelieutenant at the hearings, announced the board's decision in a statement to The...

wpde.com

Have been saying this for 10 months in locked thread after locked thread.

Agree with how it was done or not the FDA approval means something. The Navy (and all of USA) has had 10 months to use the FDA approved versions and they have not. Why is that?

The Navy can get around that by having the President Biden mandate that EUA vaccines be used. He has not. Why is that?

The "lawful order" mentioned so often here was to use the FDA approved vaccines. So where are they?

If you refuse to take an EUA vaccine in place of a mandated FDA approved vaccine are you really refusing a lawful order? No, you are not.

This is before you even hit the exemptions part. This is the basic we don't have what we mandated but want to hold you accountable for not taking what we don't have part.

This was an Admin Discharge Board which is usually made up of officers from within the same unit and is NOT a judicial body. Despite what you want it to mean, this is not like an appeals court that sets precedent and applies to this single case only

 

[JP4]

There is often tension between what you want or need and what the law is. I was merely referencing one article specifically on the "lawful order" point. No doubt there will be more.

I have commented in the past regarding readiness. For instance a few months back I posted about the USS Milwaukee and its' fully vaccinated crew making a detour to Cuba because one third of their crew came down with covid. Yes, one third of the fully vaccinated crew. Sadly the moderators deleted that thread which only referenced the article. Not sure why. For a reminder: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...ukee-back-to-sea-following-covid-19-outbreak/

Were they deployable? Yes. Could they get and spread covid just like unvaccinated? Yes. Did any die? No. Have any unvaccinated sailors died since then? No.

Was there a preexisting system in place for exemptions? Yes. Is the system legitimate when no exemptions are granted? Probably not. Can the system be changed going forward? Yes. Can the FDA approved versions (Comirnaty and Spikevax) be manufactured so the lawful order be implemented? Yes. Are they? No. Any explanation why beyond the old "we want to use up old stocks" and "they can be used interchangeably for the same effect?" No.

Here is my unpopular opinion: A huge amount of goodwill has been burned up that needn't have happened. All they had to do was provide the real deal FDA approved versions. They didn't, never explained why, and have exposed themselves to a massive litigation risk. If they are going to have an exemption process then it should be a legitimate process with guidelines, not just in name only with blanket denials. I don't ever recall a discussion on this board in the five years or so I have been reading it, pro or con, regarding religious exemptions. They are using a two year old version of a vaccine that unlike all the other vaccines they require doesn't prevent getting or spreading Covid but does carry risk for an otherwise extremely low risk population. We are a bit over five months past the "unvaccinated are going to die in the winter of death" statements that didn't pan out. What did happen? Covid became so politically unpopular that many of those pushing all the related actions were told to drop it and move on.

I may be off on numbers but isn't the vaccination status above 99% now for all services or close to that? Yet that last one percent or less need to be hammered. They are either not following orders or faking their religious beliefs or they don't believe in science or they aren't deployable or team players or military material. And for the enlisted ones anyway they are having a hard time replacing them with huge bonuses.

Personally I would give those three graduates a slap on the back and a "welcome, glad you made it."

 

[a400831]

There is often tension between what you want or need and what the law is. I was merely referencing one article specifically on the "lawful order" point. No doubt there will be more.

I have commented in the past regarding readiness. For instance a few months back I posted about the USS Milwaukee and its' fully vaccinated crew making a detour to Cuba because one third of their crew came down with covid. Yes, one third of the fully vaccinated crew. Sadly the moderators deleted that thread which only referenced the article. Not sure why. For a reminder: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...ukee-back-to-sea-following-covid-19-outbreak/

Were they deployable? Yes. Could they get and spread covid just like unvaccinated? Yes. Did any die? No. Have any unvaccinated sailors died since then? No.

Was there a preexisting system in place for exemptions? Yes. Is the system legitimate when no exemptions are granted? Probably not. Can the system be changed going forward? Yes. Can the FDA approved versions (Comirnaty and Spikevax) be manufactured so the lawful order be implemented? Yes. Are they? No. Any explanation why beyond the old "we want to use up old stocks" and "they can be used interchangeably for the same effect?" No.

Here is my unpopular opinion: A huge amount of goodwill has been burned up that needn't have happened. All they had to do was provide the real deal FDA approved versions. They didn't, never explained why, and have exposed themselves to a massive litigation risk. If they are going to have an exemption process then it should be a legitimate process with guidelines, not just in name only with blanket denials. I don't ever recall a discussion on this board in the five years or so I have been reading it, pro or con, regarding religious exemptions. They are using a two year old version of a vaccine that unlike all the other vaccines they require doesn't prevent getting or spreading Covid but does carry risk for an otherwise extremely low risk population. We are a bit over five months past the "unvaccinated are going to die in the winter of death" statements that didn't pan out. What did happen? Covid became so politically unpopular that many of those pushing all the related actions were told to drop it and move on.

I may be off on numbers but isn't the vaccination status above 99% now for all services or close to that? Yet that last one percent or less need to be hammered. They are either not following orders or faking their religious beliefs or they don't believe in science or they aren't deployable or team players or military material. And for the enlisted ones anyway they are having a hard time replacing them with huge bonuses.

Personally I would give those three graduates a slap on the back and a "welcome, glad you made it."

I find it interesting the huge percentage of your posts are COVID/Vax related and not much else.

I don’t know your background. It doesn’t matter. Let me put it very simply. The military doesn’t operate under the mindset of “oh as long as most people follow orders it’s ok”. No. If the squadron gets the order to send 6 jets across the FLOT we are sending 6 jets across the FLOT. Lawful orders are followed 100% of the time, not 99%.

To address your last paragraph, yes. They are either disobeying an order, making up a religious exemption, not believing in actual science, and being a blue Falcon to others because they aren’t deployable. You nailed it.

Personally, I wish these cadets well in life but I’m glad I will never see them with bars. I (and the Air Force) don’t have patience for this.

 

[usnabgo08]

Has there been a religion that has said not to get the COVID vaccine? If the military were to grant religious accommodations solely on a strongly held individual religious belief…well then once Pandora’s box is open…then anyone can make a claim that whatever lawful order goes against their sincerely held religious belief can’t be enforced. It’s great that individuals have their own strongly held religious belief…but the balance is whether the same belief is shared by the service members religion of record. I’m not aware of any religion saying not to get the vaccine, so maybe that’s why all but one (I believe) has not been approved in the Navy. And if there is such a strongly held personal belief, then no one is saying you can’t have that…it’s just that it may not be compatible with military service. Just because exemptions aren’t granted doesn’t mean it isn’t fair.

 

[JP4]

"I find it interesting the huge percentage of your posts are COVID/Vax related and not much else."

I explained why I was interested back in August and my concerns with censorship on this forum for certain viewpoints regarding covid. That thread was locked with an explanation that said it wasn't censorship but off topic to the purpose of this board. Then the entire thread was deleted.

I commented on another thread regarding the FDA approved version Comirnaty not being available. I was accused of disinformation and the thread was locked. It was in the off topic section. Comirnaty still isn't available.

I have several times in subsequent threads tried to put forth reasons why people may choose not to be vaccinated with an EUA vaccine. I try to be polite and not name call. I have noted several times the easy ways to get the threads locked when people want something not to be discussed. I try personally not to do those things. In January I was banned for 30 days for referring to a certain moderator by the animal in his avatar. It wasn't malicious but someone took it that way and the hammer came down.

My son is doing fine in his program. He is vaccinated and boosted. I like to read these boards to know what is going on and what to expect. He keeps me up to date with his progress. I am past the stage where all the students and parents have the flurry of questions and I am interested in many of the topics here even if I don't comment on them. I see some users here comment on nearly everything. Good for them. I often like reading their comments.

In this thread here I was accused of misinformation again and responded. However my response was hidden by the moderator(s) for a few days but ultimately they let it go through. That means the impulse to censor one side of this debate is still there. Nobody is claiming now like a year ago that covid vaccination discussions aren't really relevant to the main purpose of this forum - helping young people navigate the paths to commissioning. However the opinion seems stacked 90%-10% on what to do. I find myself in that 10% and want to provide a voice for others that feel the same way that have been shouted down or censored off this forum and decided either not to return or not bother commenting in such an unfavorable environment to their viewpoints.

"I don’t know your background. It doesn’t matter. Let me put it very simply. The military doesn’t operate under the mindset of “oh as long as most people follow orders it’s ok”"

I am not saying that either. I did say that there is a reason people don't think being forced to take an EUA vaccine in place of an FDA approved vaccine is a lawful order. I also say if there is an exemption process it should be fair and people shouldn't be maligned for using it.

You don't know these cadets. You don't know what their religious beliefs are. You have just determined that they and anyone in a similar situation are "...either disobeying an order, making up a religious exemption, not believing in actual science, and being a blue Falcon to others because they aren’t deployable." You have prejudged them without knowing the particular facts of why they applied for an exemption. Not just them, but anyone applying for an exemption, right?

So why even have that exemption process? Why even require FDA approval? If the exemption process can just be ignored and the FDA requirement tossed out the window why are they there at all? It would make firing the "blue falcons" and "sea lawyers" that much easier if such petty requirements didn't exist.

Most of the litigation going on is because of these two issues. It didn't have to be that way. Provide the FDA approved versions and run a legitimate exemption review process that isn't preordained and most of this goes away. I don't know why they are not using the FDA approved versions but that would have been an incredibly easy way to get out of the whole mess they created. Or just have the president sign the EUA order. So simple yet they didn't do it. Run a legitimate exemption process. They didn't do that either. They are trying to make up for it now but had they done it initially then most of this goes away.

It does make me wonder though. For all the ill will thrown at those not getting vaccinated where is the criticism for the government not doing the basic stuff? They are getting a pass or a no comment for not providing a single dose of FDA approved vaccine 10 months after it was approved. Shouldn't we expect better than that?

 

[JP4]

"And if there is such a strongly held personal belief, then no one is saying you can’t have that…it’s just that it may not be compatible with military service. Just because exemptions aren’t granted doesn’t mean it isn’t fair."

Well said. The problem with the exemptions were the blanket denials. They have since backed off but that initial denial of everyone discredited the process. They are making up for it now.

 

[a400831]

"I find it interesting the huge percentage of your posts are COVID/Vax related and not much else."

I explained why I was interested back in August and my concerns with censorship on this forum for certain viewpoints regarding covid. That thread was locked with an explanation that said it wasn't censorship but off topic to the purpose of this board. Then the entire thread was deleted.

I commented on another thread regarding the FDA approved version Comirnaty not being available. I was accused of disinformation and the thread was locked. It was in the off topic section. Comirnaty still isn't available.

I have several times in subsequent threads tried to put forth reasons why people may choose not to be vaccinated with an EUA vaccine. I try to be polite and not name call. I have noted several times the easy ways to get the threads locked when people want something not to be discussed. I try personally not to do those things. In January I was banned for 30 days for referring to a certain moderator by the animal in his avatar. It wasn't malicious but someone took it that way and the hammer came down.

My son is doing fine in his program. He is vaccinated and boosted. I like to read these boards to know what is going on and what to expect. He keeps me up to date with his progress. I am past the stage where all the students and parents have the flurry of questions and I am interested in many of the topics here even if I don't comment on them. I see some users here comment on nearly everything. Good for them. I often like reading their comments.

In this thread here I was accused of misinformation again and responded. However my response was hidden by the moderator(s) for a few days but ultimately they let it go through. That means the impulse to censor one side of this debate is still there. Nobody is claiming now like a year ago that covid vaccination discussions aren't really relevant to the main purpose of this forum - helping young people navigate the paths to commissioning. However the opinion seems stacked 90%-10% on what to do. I find myself in that 10% and want to provide a voice for others that feel the same way that have been shouted down or censored off this forum and decided either not to return or not bother commenting in such an unfavorable environment to their viewpoints.

"I don’t know your background. It doesn’t matter. Let me put it very simply. The military doesn’t operate under the mindset of “oh as long as most people follow orders it’s ok”"

I am not saying that either. I did say that there is a reason people don't think being forced to take an EUA vaccine in place of an FDA approved vaccine is a lawful order. I also say if there is an exemption process it should be fair and people shouldn't be maligned for using it.

You don't know these cadets. You don't know what their religious beliefs are. You have just determined that they and anyone in a similar situation are "...either disobeying an order, making up a religious exemption, not believing in actual science, and being a blue Falcon to others because they aren’t deployable." You have prejudged them without knowing the particular facts of why they applied for an exemption. Not just them, but anyone applying for an exemption, right?

So why even have that exemption process? Why even require FDA approval? If the exemption process can just be ignored and the FDA requirement tossed out the window why are they there at all? It would make firing the "blue falcons" and "sea lawyers" that much easier if such petty requirements didn't exist.

Most of the litigation going on is because of these two issues. It didn't have to be that way. Provide the FDA approved versions and run a legitimate exemption review process that isn't preordained and most of this goes away. I don't know why they are not using the FDA approved versions but that would have been an incredibly easy way to get out of the whole mess they created. Or just have the president sign the EUA order. So simple yet they didn't do it. Run a legitimate exemption process. They didn't do that either. They are trying to make up for it now but had they done it initially then most of this goes away.

It does make me wonder though. For all the ill will thrown at those not getting vaccinated where is the criticism for the government not doing the basic stuff? They are getting a pass or a no comment for not providing a single dose of FDA approved vaccine 10 months after it was approved. Shouldn't we expect better than that?

Q&A for Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine mRNA)

FDA conducted a thorough evaluation of the data and information submitted in the Biologics License Application (BLA) for Comirnaty before making a determination that the vaccine is safe and effective in preventing COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

www.fda.gov

Please scroll two thirds the way down the page to the section saying that the EUA and FDA approved versions can be used interchangeably.

You ask why do we only have EUA doses and not FDA approved? Because. It. Doesn’t. Matter. Let’s not waste money by trashing perfectly good vaccines and use that money to get us some critically needed weapon systems.

This is from the FDA which government policy is derived from. These cadets are making mountains over mole hills. These cadets have demonstrated a type of personality that slows the military down. We can’t afford that.

 

[usnabgo08]

"And if there is such a strongly held personal belief, then no one is saying you can’t have that…it’s just that it may not be compatible with military service. Just because exemptions aren’t granted doesn’t mean it isn’t fair."

Well said. The problem with the exemptions were the blanket denials. They have since backed off but that initial denial of everyone discredited the process. They are making up for it now.

What source are you referencing for blanket denials and initial denial of everyone?

 

[Anonymous121]

Q&A for Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine mRNA)

FDA conducted a thorough evaluation of the data and information submitted in the Biologics License Application (BLA) for Comirnaty before making a determination that the vaccine is safe and effective in preventing COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

www.fda.gov

Please scroll two thirds the way down the page to the section saying that the EUA and FDA approved versions can be used interchangeably.

You ask why do we only have EUA doses and not FDA approved? Because. It. Doesn’t. Matter. Let’s not waste money by trashing perfectly good vaccines and use that money to get us some critically needed weapon systems.

This is from the FDA which government policy is derived from. These cadets are making mountains over mole hills. These cadets have demonstrated a type of personality that slows the military down. We can’t afford that.

We've already had this discussion. You're wasting your time trying to argue with this person. I have since blocked them as it is like trying to have a discussion with a brick wall.

 

[Small Team Bacsi]

We've already had this discussion. You're wasting your time trying to argue with this person. I have since blocked them as it is like trying to have a discussion with a brick wall.

Well to be fair.

You looked at the meds in front of you that you could use in your medical AD work and claimed to see certain vaxes. That were approved to use.

They were at home , not on AD, on the Internet , and claimed you were wrong

 

[fullspeedahead]

These cadets got an extra year to get vaccinated and were warned beforehand that they needed to be vaccinated to commission.

They personally chose that hill to die on and sacrificed four years of hard work and dedication simply out of stubbornness or ignorance.

On I-day (or the BCT equivalent) we get like 10 different shots that honestly no one does research on before hand. Did they reject those as well?

If you cannot take 30 seconds of your time to get a shot that you are very likely to not have issues from, then you don’t deserve the rank of Second Lieutenant or Ensign. That’s the sacrifice you make for the so called “morals” you hold.

 

[Frigga]

Ah yes, another vaccine thread where we get "zero sympathy..." Where is the heartwarming love for those rogues? Wait, perhaps that is just a tinge of myocarditis.

Where we talk about a lawful order that dictates using FDA approved vaccines - Comirnaty and Spikevax - which are still not available 10 months later. We then say the EUA versions are just as good even though they are legally distinct and can't be mandated to anyone.

Where we pretend all vaccines are the same and ignore the CDC changing the definition of vaccine. Yes, if you vaccinated your dog four times in one year against rabies and that dog still got and spread rabies you might wonder if it was really a vaccine.

Where more people died from the covid vaccines in the first few months than all other vaccines combined over the last 20 years with a death count still growing but we say it is safe and effective.

Where we pretend to ignore all the misinformation censorship that happened over the last two years as 2020's bannable statements turned into 2022's truths.

Where we say a winter of death is coming to all those unvaccinated rubes and five months later the Navy death count remains unchanged at 17. Being stationed on a ship undergoing long term refurbishment is more deadly than catching Omicron.

Where we have all sorts of sympathy for cadets who cheat on their math test or snort fentanyl laced cocaine on spring break but none for those that are hesitant to take the clot shot.

It makes me sad to see what is happening to these young people. As always stated in these threads, I hope the long term consequences are mild or nonexistent for all these students forced to take experimental drugs with no long term testing and no recourse if they are injured or die from it.

I was just thinking the same thing- I have seen sympathy for those who sought out drugs while partying and then overdosed and for those who cheated on math tests- but "zero sympathy" for those who worry about the long term (or even short term) effects of an ineffective (yes, we can admit it) vaccine. Speaking as a mom whose son ended up in the ER hours after the vaccine was administered with almost a 105 temperature- I understand their position. A teammate my son's also ended up hospitalized with acute appendicitis right after his second Pfizer and according to my son's pediatrician 3 male patients were hospitalized for myocarditis in that practice alone. CT had one of the highest vaccination rates and now has one of the highest Covid rates with hospitalization in the country. My son was administered the shot because we knew it was required by the Armed Forces and was a condition of that choice but it was not done with confidence in the efficacy of this drug. So while I see that these cadets are out of compliance and should be dismissed, I understand and do have sympathy.

 

[Humey]

Q&A for Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine mRNA)

FDA conducted a thorough evaluation of the data and information submitted in the Biologics License Application (BLA) for Comirnaty before making a determination that the vaccine is safe and effective in preventing COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

www.fda.gov

Please scroll two thirds the way down the page to the section saying that the EUA and FDA approved versions can be used interchangeably.

You ask why do we only have EUA doses and not FDA approved? Because. It. Doesn’t. Matter. Let’s not waste money by trashing perfectly good vaccines and use that money to get us some critically needed weapon systems.

This is from the FDA which government policy is derived from. These cadets are making mountains over mole hills. These cadets have demonstrated a type of personality that slows the military down. We can’t afford that.

This is the argument they make. The original vaccines were send out as part of the emergency mandate by the FDA. Therefore they were technically experimental in nature. Then the FDA approved the vaccine like they do every drug in the US market. However, the vaccines being given out are from the original batch that were created prior to full approval and therefore cant be be forced on the military. So the solution, i gather is that all of the vaccines should be thrown away and new ones made so that they fall under the FDA approval or maybe, which is probably unethically, all of the vials should have their labels removed and replaced with a FDA approved sticker. Either way, the problem is that the vial has the experimental FDA sticker instead of the FDA approved sticker. The stickers are the real problem

 

[OldRetSWO]

This is the argument they make. The original vaccines were send out as part of the emergency mandate by the FDA. Therefore they were technically experimental in nature. Then the FDA approved the vaccine like they do every drug in the US market. However, the vaccines being given out are from the original batch that were created prior to full approval and therefore cant be be forced on the military. So the solution, i gather is that all of the vaccines should be thrown away and new ones made so that they fall under the FDA approval or maybe, which is probably unethically, all of the vials should have their labels removed and replaced with a FDA approved sticker. Either way, the problem is that the vial has the experimental FDA sticker instead of the FDA approved sticker. The stickers are the real problem

They are the SAME EXACT formula, the SAME EXACT process, ABSOLUTELY THE SAME STUFF and this whole argument is just one more try to avoid taking it.
If it was not the same stuff then the stuff that the FDA approved would not have been tested because the tests were with the original vaccines

 

[2025 hopeful]

USAFA had their graduation yesterday, I was streaming parts of it. Does anyone know if they were allowed to graduate?

 

[SOG-SA]

USAFA had their graduation yesterday, I was streaming parts of it. Does anyone know if they were allowed to graduate?

Last I heard/read....1 got the shot, and three stood firm and declined.

I believe those three were allowed to graduate, but were NOT commissioned.