A few nomination questions

[Saul]

I'm starting the nomination process a bit late, but have a few questions/concerns.

1. Is there any penalty to doing it this late? A lot of my congressmen have a deadline (usually late oct, early nov) for nomination applications. Does it matter WHEN you send it in as long as its by this date?

2. Im really only applying for a USMMA nomination. If i understand it correctly, i can apply for a nomination for any of my representatives (as well as my senators). A lot of my reps on their application have "you must reside in so and so district). Are they going to take one look at my address and throw it out or are they going to see/know the exception for usmma noms?

3. For Letters of recommendation, is it okay to have a "generic" one for each application? With my senators, i have 13 total applications for nominations to fill out. I dont want to go to my boss or my teacher and ask for 13 different letters of rec.

Is there anything else that i should be doing at this stage besides requesting nominations?



Thanks for the help.

 

[BillSL]

EDIT: THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO USMMA! This ONLY APPLIES TO USMA!

1)I've read around that no, it doesn't hurt you to send them in closer to the deadline (most MOCs only look at the files after the deadline by the way, I believe).

2)Well, as far as I know, "your representative" is the Congressman of the district you reside. I could be wrong (USMMA might have a different system, which I would personally find it odd).

3)13 total nom apps? Wow! I take you could send in a generic one to the offices that request a generic one. I know Hon. Kerry's office requires a rec from your counselor and a teacher (open letter). Hon. Brown's office requires the counselor/principal and a teacher/coach to fill in a form (and they are able to attach an extra letter, if they deem necessary).

Good luck on your quest, Saul!

 

[Saul]

Yes. I believe the usmma nom process is a bit different.

Nominating authorities may nominate any candidate to the USMMA from their State/Territory.* Per the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations, 46 CFR Ch. II, 310.53), candidates "must be resident of a State to be nominated by (a) a Member of the U.S. Senate representing that State or (b) a Member of the U.S. House of Representatives whose Congressional District is located in that State". A candidate does not have to reside in the same Congressional District as his/her nominator (a Member of the U.S. House of Representative CAN nominate a candidate who resides in a District other than their own, as long as it is in their (the nominator's) State/Territory.)* This differs from nominations to the USMA, USNA, and USAFA.

Taken directly from the usmma website.



Im probably not going to have time to send in any applications until september. Going out of town this friday, not returning until the end of the month.


Any other feedback would be greatly appreciated!

 

[BillSL]

Oh alright. Well, I'd definitely call them. You don't want to sign a paper saying you reside on such district when you don't (my nom apps were turned in without a signature for that reason, and the persons I've talked to said it was the right decision).

Ah, gotta love how they make it really explicit the nom app differs from USMA, USNA and USAFA. Haha, my bad, I should've looked into it before saying something. Well, lesson learned.

 

[Saul]

Just a friendly bump to try to get a few other opinions on this!

 

[Ken2012]

1. As long as it as by the deadline it should be fine. I have yet to hear of a rolling admissions for a MOC.

2. I have no idea. You should call and find out to make sure.

3. That sounds fine. If it's a good letter of recommendation that would be good.


Just saying that MOCs are different and the applications may be different from others.

Good luck!

 

[Pima]

How do you have 13 nom apps? Most MOC's will ask you to rack and stack your top 3 (usually), but it is still the same application. You will not be submitting 1 application for each branch. Now maybe your MOC might ask you to submit a sep one for USMMA, but that would still leave you only with 7 (VP being the 7th), 9 if you are going ROTC and Presidential.

Even if you live in a different state, it still would remain way under 13 since the USMMA operates with the living outside of their constituency option. Figure you can get 4 noms, from the MOCs in total. Or are you saying that you are going to apply to every MOC in your state and that is how you will total 13?

 

[Saul]

How do you have 13 nom apps? Most MOC's will ask you to rack and stack your top 3 (usually), but it is still the same application. You will not be submitting 1 application for each branch. Now maybe your MOC might ask you to submit a sep one for USMMA, but that would still leave you only with 7 (VP being the 7th), 9 if you are going ROTC and Presidential.

Even if you live in a different state, it still would remain way under 13 since the USMMA operates with the living outside of their constituency option. Figure you can get 4 noms, from the MOCs in total. Or are you saying that you are going to apply to every MOC in your state and that is how you will total 13?

From the way i understand USMMA noms, i am eligible to apply for a nomination there from all representatives in my state, not just my congressional district. Along with my two senators (as there are no vp/presidential/jrotc noms for usmma), that makes 13 possible nomination sources for the state of Virginia.

Unless i am misunderstanding the concept?

 

[Pima]

Saul,

Applying to all 13 MOCs is very ambitious, and I wish you good luck. That being stated I would also say to you to don't get too wrapped up in this and lose sight of your PLAN B.

Most colleges will require essays too, in some cases 2 essays and can have deadlines hit right around the same time as MOCs. You can find yourself going insane writing essays for the fall, on top of school work.

Do the math, 13 essays, plus 5 or 6 schools essays and AP Eng or Lit essays plus history essays all by mid October, will means that you are probably looking at doing at least 3 essays a week to obtain your goal.

From a time mgmt issue, that isn't even adding in any EC or if you are taking the fall SAT/ACT, which will eat up even more hours and give you less time to complete them.

When you have that many to accomplish what typically happens is the quality decreases with each essay. Thus, you are not increasing your chances of success, but hurting them by submitting inferior work.

Not saying you will, just saying that it is possible.