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txfwindian

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Question for 2/c or firsties:

I was some pictures of plebes running and they were wearing wrist bands of different colors. Can someone provide latest on what each of these color stands for?

Neon green
Blue
Black
White
 
txfwindian said:
Question for 2/c or firsties:

I was some pictures of plebes running and they were wearing wrist bands of different colors. Can someone provide latest on what each of these color stands for?

Neon green
Blue
Black
White
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I would like to know that as well.
 
It’s common to group plebes according to running ability. Helps each one reach their potential. Could be related to that. As to exactly what color corresponds to what level, perhaps only the plebes and their detailers know.
 
That I don’t know, @txfwindian. Sorry. You’ll have to add it to what’s surely an ever growing list of questions for that first call. 😉
 
Yes, you rightly said that this list is ever growing for the first call.

This is on top of the questions going out in the daily letters..
 
Speaking of that first call, and the list of questions y’all have ready to ask…we put our guys on speaker phone so we could all hear. And had DH’s 2nd phone recording mine. Because you will be so excitied and emotional, you will forget a lot of what’s said 💙.
 
I believe black are the fastest - they do speed work on the track (at least that was 2 summers ago)
 
And know that not all Mids are actually performing at their ‘competition level’ running ability. Getting through plebe summer is a marathon…not a sprint. So it’s not a reflection of abilities. It’s a management off 1,500 people running tool. Even if your Mid is on the track team.
 
justdoit19 said:
And know that not all Mids are actually performing at their ‘competition level’ running ability. Getting through plebe summer is a marathon…not a sprint. So it’s not a reflection of abilities. It’s a management off 1,500 people running tool. Even if your Mid is on the track team.
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I remember reading some of the parent posts during my son's PS. There had to be 50+ parents proudly posting what color their child was wearing, like it was a ribbon. Who cares?

As @justdoit19 said, it is a marathon, not a sprint. The goal is to pass the PRT and to not get injured in preparation.

My son plans every run of his. Each day he will run a certain mileage at at a certain pace, and use his running watch to maintain that pace. He usually gets a chuckle if he happens to pass someone around his age. Most times they will pass him in return, thinking it is a race. Then they will eventually tucker out and he will pass them again before his run is over. Sort of a tortoise vs the hare situation...
 
I wonder how many plebes realize that their initial IRT time will be used to ability group them thereafter (not sure they are informed of this before the run)? If not, and they go balls to the walls- they might "slightly" regret that for their PEP ability group run thereafter... Although, it'll all work out in the end, one way or the other.
 
WolfPackGrunt said:
I wonder how many plebes realize that their initial IRT time will be used to ability group them thereafter (not sure they are informed of this before the run)? If not, and they go balls to the walls- they might "slightly" regret that for their PEP ability group run thereafter... Although, it'll all work out in the end, one way or the other.
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Knowing when to sandbag is an art. The old adage in bowling was "loose by 100 pins and win by one"
 
Hi all,
I paid to join Thornton Studios photo access. Our local Parent Group told me about it. Mr. Thornton has several cameras on The Yard for all of the Plebe events that started on June 28 I Day. He will continue posting photos until Plebe summer is over. He has posted TONS of photos plus what he calls "WALDO NEWS" with information on what's happening. He adds in some fun trivia too! Additionally, he asked us for our Plebe's Company number so he when he photos that Company separately/as a group he adds those photos to our personal profile to view. Here is his website:

www.plebesummer.com

USNA2025 Enter

ThorntonStudios
www.plebesummer.com

This is the latest post from him regarding the wrist bands but he did not elaborate on what color is for what group.
This is from a text he sent out: "Each Plebe, based on their one mile run time on the IST, are assigned an Ability Group. Group 1 had the fastest while Group 6 has the slowest time. Plebes are given colored wrist bands that show what group they are in so the Detailers can watch and see that they do not try and switch groups to get an easier run.
This is from an email he sent out: "PEP: This was their first real PEP. They broke up into their Ability Groups. Groups 2-5 ran around the perimeter around the water. Group 1 is the fastest and they went to the track and field to run. Group 6 was the slowest. Mostly females. Apparently 36% of the Plebes did not pass the PRT, or Physical Readiness Test. Major Antonelli, retired, informed the Plebes and then told them this was the lowest failure rate in years. On a sidebar, Heinz Lenz introduced the whole PEP program in the 1970s. He could out exercise each and every Plebe, even at the age of about 70 when he retired. Major Antonelli went through Plebe Summer when Heinz was the PEP instructor, and remembers him well. Now Major Antonelli is the new Heinz Lenz. He can run circles around every Plebe when it comes to PEP workout. This morning he would repeatedly encourage the Plebes, with comments like, "You need to feel comfortable not feeling comfortable with the exercise."

And I cannot thank all of you enough for the tip of colored running shoes! I am able to find my DS just by scanning the shoes :yay:
 
93RN said:
Hi all,
I paid to join Thornton Studios photo access. Our local Parent Group told me about it. Mr. Thornton has several cameras on The Yard for all of the Plebe events that started on June 28 I Day. He will continue posting photos until Plebe summer is over. He has posted TONS of photos plus what he calls "WALDO NEWS" with information on what's happening. He adds in some fun trivia too! Additionally, he asked us for our Plebe's Company number so he when he photos that Company separately/as a group he adds those photos to our personal profile to view. Here is his website:

www.plebesummer.com

USNA2025 Enter

ThorntonStudios
www.plebesummer.com

This is the latest post from him regarding the wrist bands but he did not elaborate on what color is for what group.
This is from a text he sent out: "Each Plebe, based on their one mile run time on the IST, are assigned an Ability Group. Group 1 had the fastest while Group 6 has the slowest time. Plebes are given colored wrist bands that show what group they are in so the Detailers can watch and see that they do not try and switch groups to get an easier run.
This is from an email he sent out: "PEP: This was their first real PEP. They broke up into their Ability Groups. Groups 2-5 ran around the perimeter around the water. Group 1 is the fastest and they went to the track and field to run. Group 6 was the slowest. Mostly females. Apparently 36% of the Plebes did not pass the PRT, or Physical Readiness Test. Major Antonelli, retired, informed the Plebes and then told them this was the lowest failure rate in years. On a sidebar, Heinz Lenz introduced the whole PEP program in the 1970s. He could out exercise each and every Plebe, even at the age of about 70 when he retired. Major Antonelli went through Plebe Summer when Heinz was the PEP instructor, and remembers him well. Now Major Antonelli is the new Heinz Lenz. He can run circles around every Plebe when it comes to PEP workout. This morning he would repeatedly encourage the Plebes, with comments like, "You need to feel comfortable not feeling comfortable with the exercise."

And I cannot thank all of you enough for the tip of colored running shoes! I am able to find my DS just by scanning the shoes :yay:
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Heinz Lez was one of the most memorable characters that my classmates and I encountered at USNA. Forty-mumble years later, he is constantly mentioned and many of us will still imitate some of his catchphrases.
Fun Fact: During a job interview ten or so yrs ago, The female HR person doing my initial screen turned out to be Heinz's daughter.
 
OldRetSWO said:
Heinz Lez was one of the most memorable characters that my classmates and I encountered at USNA. Forty-mumble years later, he is constantly mentioned and many of us will still imitate some of his catchphrases.
Fun Fact: During a job interview ten or so yrs ago, The female HR person doing my initial screen turned out to be Heinz's daughter.
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I think he was the Navy’s Jack Lalanne.
 
OldRetSWO said:
Forty-mumble years later, he is constantly mentioned and many of us will still imitate some of his catchphrases.
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"Where are the Soooopers out there?" "Let's go Soooopers !" (Supers, with German accent)
"Follow the man in the red corvette" (same accent -- the Red Corvette was the Detailer setting the pace)
Heinz Lenz was and is, truly a legend. Not sure when he retired, but he certainly wasn't young during the Summer of '81.
 
I think a big takeaway too is that regardless of run group assignment, there is a very high chance that a mid will pass the PRT out of Plebe Summer. The run program combines the group stuff with Regimental Runs that build some pride. (Nothing like running a smooth pace behind the American Flag and the brass) Something like a 98% pass rate. Most will be shocked at their time (in a good way) come game day. For any worried parents, your mid will be just fine!

On a tangential note, mandatory morning workouts are thing for Plebes during the Ac Year. Those are mix of calisthenics, running, and military-esque stuff like log PT. Before PRTs (the Spring one is historically is in February), the workouts are mainly PRT prep, but after each PRT, the focus switches getting ready for different physical evolutions (Ice Trials/FEXs, Sea Trials, etc.). These workouts are run by either (or a combo of) the Training Staff (upperclass that supervises the Plebes during the Ac Year... not necessarily the Detailers they have in PS) or the PMO (Physical Mission Officer) Staff. They are good workouts, but they should be supplemental to a regular fitness routine.

Pro tip: Buy running gloves in the winter. Makes running and the push-ups in the frosty grass more tolerable! Don't miss those days ;)
 
And parents, don’t worry about this. Even if your plebe is “failing” PRT. They will get to where they need to be if they do the work. Just like academic help, there is a program within each company to work with those not passing. And they get chances. Ultimately they do have to pass. But there is help for them if they are not passing. So don’t worry!!
 
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