Adm. Lisa Franchetti Nominated to be Next CNO

All four of the POTUS’ nominees today are sound for the Navy and Indo-Pacific. Now to get them confirmed…
 
President Biden nominated Admiral Franchetti for CNO over Admiral Samuel "Pappy" Paparo. The SECDEF originally recommended Admiral Paparo for CNO. He is now nominated to lead the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command. With Taiwan's Prime Minister belief of a 2027 Chinese invasion and former deputy commander for U.S. Indo-Pacific Command prediction of a 2025 Chinese conflict, I can follow the thought process of why a Top Gun Graduate with 6000 flight hours in F-14, F-15, F/A-18 was nominated as the Indo-Pacific Commander. On a recent 60 Minutes interview, he said, "We are ready." I'm not a psychologist but I can read leadership traits as a result of a 30-year military service. This fellow is fearless and a winner.
 
Her gender was front and center in President Biden's announcement. Convince me to put my kids' lives in her hands as well as the security of our country when her qualifications are contaminated by identity politics. Too late. As soon as Biden talked about gender you lost me. Hard to imagine why we are having a recruiting crisis.
 
CNO is not a combatant command (COCOM). So don't worry.

Geographic Combatant Commands:
AFRICOM
CENTCOM
EUCOM
INDOPACOM
NORTHCOM
SOUTHCOM
SPACECOM
Her gender was front and center in President Biden's announcement. Convince me to put my kids' lives in her hands as well as the security of our country when her qualifications are contaminated by identity politics. Too late. As soon as Biden talked about gender you lost me. Hard to imagine why we are having a recruiting crisis.
 
Her gender was front and center in President Biden's announcement. Convince me to put my kids' lives in her hands as well as the security of our country when her qualifications are contaminated by identity politics. Too late. As soon as Biden talked about gender you lost me. Hard to imagine why we are having a recruiting crisis.
I think this is one of the downfalls of the DEI push. When you visibly use racist or sexist criteria, all your selections will be questioned due to your bias, whether or not they are the best candidates.

Generally, one does not make 4-star without some significant competence. Sad that the Admiral will have to overcome the method of her nomination and not just deal with the issues facing the Navy.
 
I think this is one of the downfalls of the DEI push. When you visibly use racist or sexist criteria, all your selections will be questioned due to your bias, whether or not they are the best candidates.

Generally, one does not make 4-star without some significant competence. Sad that the Admiral will have to overcome the method of her nomination and not just deal with the issues facing the Navy.
I largely agree, and anecdotally, I hear many of the female officers around me share that same sentiment. I first heard this news through USNI and their article did not make mention of ADM Franchetti’s gender at all. Maybe the milestone is something that civilians care about more? IMO the military’s culture can be expressed with the mantra “I don’t care who you are or where you came from, as long as you do your job well”. I’m not saying there’s zero bigotry in the military, but I would venture to say that in general there’s less of it than in the civilian world.
 
I largely agree, and anecdotally, I hear many of the female officers around me share that same sentiment. I first heard this news through USNI and their article did not make mention of ADM Franchetti’s gender at all. Maybe the milestone is something that civilians care about more? IMO the military’s culture can be expressed with the mantra “I don’t care who you are or where you came from, as long as you do your job well”. I’m not saying there’s zero bigotry in the military, but I would venture to say that in general there’s less of it than in the civilian world.
It varies. I will say it’s a mixed bag. In the Marine Corps I always felt I was treated fairly. My first civilian career, never felt I was treated fairly. I finally said it was time to find a new career and what a change. I work for a Fortune 50-ish. I have been treated very fairly, way better than the Marine Corps even. I love where I work. But you must perform there. Sure there are politics, but alot less of it than any other place I have been. When I look up and down our teams and leaders, we are a mixed group of all kinds of backgrounds. I think the one thing that is very different from the military world is retention… I am weighted very heavily as a leader. Hiring is expensive. Retaining talent is key. We are all competing for the same quality talent. In the military as an officer we see and hear about it, but we are not necessarily held accountable like I am today.
 
It varies. I will say it’s a mixed bag. In the Marine Corps I always felt I was treated fairly. My first civilian career, never felt I was treated fairly. I finally said it was time to find a new career and what a change. I work for a Fortune 50-ish. I have been treated very fairly, way better than the Marine Corps even. I love where I work. But you must perform there. Sure there are politics, but alot less of it than any other place I have been. When I look up and down our teams and leaders, we are a mixed group of all kinds of backgrounds. I think the one thing that is very different from the military world is retention… I am weighted very heavily as a leader. Hiring is expensive. Retaining talent is key. We are all competing for the same quality talent. In the military as an officer we see and hear about it, but we are not necessarily held accountable like I am today.
How you are treated now as compared to when you were in the Corps or the first civilian job could also be a reflection of how much has changed over the past ten years or so. There has been some huge changes especially in the accountability area.
 
Her gender was front and center in President Biden's announcement. Convince me to put my kids' lives in her hands as well as the security of our country when her qualifications are contaminated by identity politics. Too late. As soon as Biden talked about gender you lost me. Hard to imagine why we are having a recruiting crisis.

If you truly feel that way, why not do a little research on her qualifications? She is currently serving as the Vice Chief of Naval Operations. I’m curious how this is directly contributing to the recruiting crisis? In a way, I can see it helping by showing all opportunities and doors are open for everyone who is qualified to serve.

I actually think this was a better decision than what was originally proposed by the chain of command. If I recall, the chain of command recommended ADM Paparo to be the next CNO…but given the near peer competition in the Pacific, having his expertise to lead Indo-Pacom, seems a better fit to ensure continuity of strategic and operational focus in that theater (he will be following the same exact path as ADM Aquilino did, who currently sits this Indo-Pacom seat). VADM Koehler previously commanded Third Fleet, so he has a bit of understanding of the Pacific theater. As mentioned the Combatant Commanders (CCDR) are responsible for military operations within their established geography…it’s imperative that we get the right leadership in these positions…in particular Indo-Pacom, where it might really matter.
 
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You know...I watched my wife, an air force pilot, put up with a LOT of "the old boy network" in the 1986-1992 time frame. It drove her from the USAF back into the engineering world. And thank God it did; we'll have a very lucrative retirement as she makes 6x what I make annually.

But oh, does it bug her. And today...the changes, differences, etc., are IMMENSE. Why does anyone give a damn about this admiral's gender? I'm just an old jet jockey...son of an AF officer, grandson of an army officer...you know what I do? I look at their rack and their assignments.

Her rack shows me: serious achievement as a commander/leader/mentor at all grades, from ensign to flag...and those "decorations" come from command experience, leadership roles, and such...I know because I have many that she has, but not all...I never got a DSM...not high enough in rank/responsibility. And then I look at the roles she's held...OMG...just awesome. Even as an AF officer, I can tell her assignments/command billets were top-notch.

This is a fully qualified full-admiral...easily qualified to be CNO...who cares what her gender is, she has "the moxie" and "the talent" to do that job.

No story here, move on, she's fully qualified.
 
Her gender was front and center in President Biden's announcement. Convince me to put my kids' lives in her hands as well as the security of our country when her qualifications are contaminated by identity politics. Too late. As soon as Biden talked about gender you lost me. Hard to imagine why we are having a recruiting crisis.
See what Identity politics got us, Kamala Harris! How is that working out for the USA?
People should be judged by their character and abilities not the color of their skin. Hmmm.
 
If you truly feel that way, why not do a little research on her qualifications? She is currently serving as the Vice Chief of Naval Operations. I’m curious how this is directly contributing to the recruiting crisis? In a way, I can see it helping by showing all opportunities and doors are open for everyone who is qualified to serve.

I actually think this was a better decision than what was originally proposed by the chain of command. If I recall, the chain of command recommended ADM Paparo to be the next CNO…but given the near peer competition in the Pacific, having his expertise to lead Indo-Pacom, seems a better fit to ensure continuity of strategic and operational focus in that theater (he will be following the same exact path as ADM Aquilino did, who currently sits this Indo-Pacom seat). VADM Koehler previously commanded Third Fleet, so he has a bit of understanding of the Pacific theater. As mentioned the Combatant Commanders (CCDR) are responsible for military operations within their established geography…it’s imperative that we get the right leadership in these positions…in particular Indo-Pacom, where it might really matter.
Her qualifications are irrelevant to my point. The fact that a politician used her as an identity politics prop is. He harmed her reputation, females and other minorities in the service, and the service itself by making it about something that should not be relevant in 2023. This is especially egregious given current recruiting challenges where perception (which is as powerful as reality) questions the military being "woke" and erodes trust and confidence in the institution.

Optics matter. She no doubt had a challenging career made tougher by the nagging question "Is she just getting promoted because of her gender?" by those around her if not even from time to time by herself (maybe her self-confidence is so high this thought never even occurred to her).

So, maybe this assignment slate is the best one possible. There's evidence to suggest this. However, it was poorly executed.
 
Her qualifications are irrelevant to my point. The fact that a politician used her as an identity politics prop is. He harmed her reputation, females and other minorities in the service, and the service itself by making it about something that should not be relevant in 2023. This is especially egregious given current recruiting challenges where perception (which is as powerful as reality) questions the military being "woke" and erodes trust and confidence in the institution.

Optics matter. She no doubt had a challenging career made tougher by the nagging question "Is she just getting promoted because of her gender?" by those around her if not even from time to time by herself (maybe her self-confidence is so high this thought never even occurred to her).

So, maybe this assignment slate is the best one possible. There's evidence to suggest this. However, it was poorly executed.
Optics matter.

If an unqualified person is selected for anything based on sex or color (or any other reason), an unqualified person is still selected.

In the case of a qualified person, the harm that is done to others by assuming the person isn’t qualified is the problem.

It appears to be the latter in this case. There are plenty of examples of the former to raise concern.
 
Absolutely shocking that a first time historic appointment would be noted as being historic.

What is not shocking is seeing the very predictable posts from some very predictable posters,

What is actually shocking is that you don't see the damage "historic" politically motivated dog and pony shows do when someone gets paraded in front of the media like a new ideological trophy. Optics matter. Or do they?

What is predictable is that this trend will unfortunately continue and people who should know better (even on this very forum) will continue to make excuses for it (ie "It's right to do this because it's historic").

Serious question: Should she be introduced as "The First Female CNO" or just as "The CNO"? What's the protocol when she enters a room, given the historic angle and all?
 
What is actually shocking is that you don't see the damage "historic" politically motivated dog and pony shows do when someone gets paraded in front of the media like a new ideological trophy. Optics matter. Or do they?

What is predictable is that this trend will unfortunately continue and people who should know better (even on this very forum) will continue to make excuses for it (ie "It's right to do this because it's historic").

Serious question: Should she be introduced as "The First Female CNO" or just as "The CNO"? What's the protocol when she enters a room, given the historic angle and all?
The question that matters is if she is qualified. How politicians frame it doesn’t distract from that answer. She appears qualified. And should be referred to as the CNO.

Politicians that frame an unqualified candidate for political purposes should be held to account.
 
The question that matters is if she is qualified. How politicians frame it doesn’t distract from that answer. She appears qualified. And should be referred to as the CNO.

Politicians that frame an unqualified candidate for political purposes should be held to account.
Here is the real issues! Are politicians held accountable? They seem to be be the only people who creat a problem then act like hero’s when they attempt to fix that same problem. And people fall for this malarkey. They also play the divide and conquer card a lot as well.
 
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