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There have been a few questions and seems like a lot of concern regarding the number of applications USNA is receiving and what to make of these numbers. Maybe this break down of the admission process with regard to applications will help to clear any questions.
Definition of application:
Anyone expressing an interest in applying to USNA. Sources: college fair cards that students complete, those completing the online application to SS, those who attend a congressional service academy day event and fill out an interest form, and those who just go online and begin a preliminary application.
Also, there are those applicants who receive a candidate number and
A) do nothing more
B) submit only SAT/ACT score, we never hear another thing
C) complete some of their package and give up interest
D) have a BGO interview and realize attending a SA isn't their thing
To date, as a BGO, I have not received any information stating that 13,000 completed Preliminary Applications have been received at this point in the cycle. (If my memory serves me correctly, last year there were just over 12,000 "applications" for the entire cycle, 2013 and it will be interesting to hear the final numbers for cycle 2014!)
Admissions sent out a message to BGOs a couple of weeks ago stating that applications were UP by 3,000 when compared to the numbers received at the same time LAST year.
**Remember, the above statement is comparing X number of applications received on X September 2008 when compared to X September 2009. At this point none of us know that figure.
Since I do not have accurate numbers for 2013, I'll use the published final stats for the Class of 2012 provided by USNA as the example:
Applicants and Nominees
#1 Applicants (includes nominees)............. 10,960
#2 Number of applicants with an
official nomination............................. 3,838
#3 Nominees qualified scholastically,
medically and in physical aptitude..... 2,196
#4 Offers of admission................................ 1,537
#5 Admitted............................................... 1,261
#1: These are any and all people who have even expressed an interest in USNA through web site, mailer, SS interest, college fairs, etc. (NOTE: this number does include those WITH nominations). PS: Number really high to impress college hopefuls, sounds great during briefings
#2: These are those candidates who actually RECEIVED a nomination and were part of the 10,960 (Now doesn't this number look more reasonable??)
#3: Of the 3,838 candidates who received a nomination only 2,196 were physically, medically and scholastically qualified. (NOTE: some who receive a nomination may NOT be qualified by DoDMERB ~ this does happen!)
So ~ we've gone from the 10,960 who expressed interest or began applications and in the end ONLY 2,196 were actually 3Q'd AND received a nomination.
Here's the example I give to candidates and their parents during an interview:
Imagine a sifter. All of you applying to a USNA are dumped in there at one time. Now as you sift, some fall through the holes (they don't get in for some reason or don't complete the applications); what are left are those that may be accepted for admission.
#3: Of the 2,196 who were qualified, USNA sent out 1,537 offers of appointment (or approximately 70% who met all requirements AND secured a nomination for the class of 2012 were offered an appointment)
#4: 1,261 accepted their appointment and showed up on IDay (~82% receiving appointments accepted their appointments; remember many of the candidates have applied to multiple academies).
FACTS are: The number of applications ARE up from this time last year. The Academy is urging those in highly competitive areas to complete their packages ASAP (ex: Northeast).
Let's face it, due to economic conditions people are looking for a good deal! The surge in numbers is common during poor economic times and in times of trouble (9/11) when patriotism is high.
This DOES NOT mean all applicants are COMPETITIVE applicants, some are just fishing for the "free tuition."
Hope I just haven't confused you even further!
Definition of application:
Anyone expressing an interest in applying to USNA. Sources: college fair cards that students complete, those completing the online application to SS, those who attend a congressional service academy day event and fill out an interest form, and those who just go online and begin a preliminary application.
Also, there are those applicants who receive a candidate number and
A) do nothing more
B) submit only SAT/ACT score, we never hear another thing
C) complete some of their package and give up interest
D) have a BGO interview and realize attending a SA isn't their thing
To date, as a BGO, I have not received any information stating that 13,000 completed Preliminary Applications have been received at this point in the cycle. (If my memory serves me correctly, last year there were just over 12,000 "applications" for the entire cycle, 2013 and it will be interesting to hear the final numbers for cycle 2014!)
Admissions sent out a message to BGOs a couple of weeks ago stating that applications were UP by 3,000 when compared to the numbers received at the same time LAST year.
**Remember, the above statement is comparing X number of applications received on X September 2008 when compared to X September 2009. At this point none of us know that figure.
Since I do not have accurate numbers for 2013, I'll use the published final stats for the Class of 2012 provided by USNA as the example:
Applicants and Nominees
#1 Applicants (includes nominees)............. 10,960
#2 Number of applicants with an
official nomination............................. 3,838
#3 Nominees qualified scholastically,
medically and in physical aptitude..... 2,196
#4 Offers of admission................................ 1,537
#5 Admitted............................................... 1,261
#1: These are any and all people who have even expressed an interest in USNA through web site, mailer, SS interest, college fairs, etc. (NOTE: this number does include those WITH nominations). PS: Number really high to impress college hopefuls, sounds great during briefings
#2: These are those candidates who actually RECEIVED a nomination and were part of the 10,960 (Now doesn't this number look more reasonable??)
#3: Of the 3,838 candidates who received a nomination only 2,196 were physically, medically and scholastically qualified. (NOTE: some who receive a nomination may NOT be qualified by DoDMERB ~ this does happen!)
So ~ we've gone from the 10,960 who expressed interest or began applications and in the end ONLY 2,196 were actually 3Q'd AND received a nomination.
Here's the example I give to candidates and their parents during an interview:
Imagine a sifter. All of you applying to a USNA are dumped in there at one time. Now as you sift, some fall through the holes (they don't get in for some reason or don't complete the applications); what are left are those that may be accepted for admission.
#3: Of the 2,196 who were qualified, USNA sent out 1,537 offers of appointment (or approximately 70% who met all requirements AND secured a nomination for the class of 2012 were offered an appointment)
#4: 1,261 accepted their appointment and showed up on IDay (~82% receiving appointments accepted their appointments; remember many of the candidates have applied to multiple academies).
FACTS are: The number of applications ARE up from this time last year. The Academy is urging those in highly competitive areas to complete their packages ASAP (ex: Northeast).
Let's face it, due to economic conditions people are looking for a good deal! The surge in numbers is common during poor economic times and in times of trouble (9/11) when patriotism is high.
This DOES NOT mean all applicants are COMPETITIVE applicants, some are just fishing for the "free tuition."
Hope I just haven't confused you even further!
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