Army Commander Goes to Trial

Agreed, Bruno. But, luckily for him, he'll be able to pay it out of his retirement pay. :confused1:
 
Jcc123 said:
Stunning conclusion, really. Guilty on all counts but essentially only a fine?

http://www.stripes.com/news/outrage...onvicted-colonel-1.180437#.T9uHs20nUWw.mailto
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Absolutely disgusting. But not surprising. Yet another bout of cronyism from the baby-boomer Cold War generation of officers, the Army's cancer.

Before anyone starts banging the "ring-knocker" drum, I would remind everyone that the allegiances made over 30+ years bear much more weight than being a grad. Not that the truth will ever slow some of the local bomb-throwers down...

I think it was shameful that his father attended.
 
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tpg said:
Oh good gosh! I can see the complaints from Soldiers who were NJP’d in his unit and the congressional inquiries now....

Do these officers even begin to understand the can of worms they just opened?
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He had faced possible decades in prison and dismissal from the Army as a maximum sentence. The panel of five colonels who presided over the court-martial in the German city of Kaiserslautern did not explain their decision.
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I'm not surprised that they didn't explain their decision. That's a pretty soft outcome.
 
Stunning. I had a BN CDR take rank from a SGT for committing Adultery while separated. This guy gets to keep his COL's Eagle. Sad.
 
scoutpilot said:
Absolutely disgusting. But not surprising. Yet another bout of cronyism from the baby-boomer Cold War generation of officers, the Army's cancer.

Before anyone starts banging the "ring-knocker" drum, I would remind everyone that the allegiances made over 30+ years bear much more weight than being a grad. Not that the truth will ever slow some of the local bomb-throwers down...

I think it was shameful that his father attended.
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I also think this is very disgusting. If I was on the jury, I would have gave him the maxmium.

As for the "ring-knocker" drum. My perception is that the "ring-knocker" drum have some legs if a few members of the jury were West Point grad. We don't know, so you guess is good as my guess.
 
MemberLG said:
I also think this is very disgusting. If I was on the jury, I would have gave him the maxmium.

As for the "ring-knocker" drum. My perception is that the "ring-knocker" drum have some legs if a few members of the jury were West Point grad. We don't know, so you guess is good as my guess.
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I would submit to you that being a ring-knocker (a term that is laughable in modern parlance) is almost meaningless in comparison to the real politics of the military, specifically that LTG(R) Johnson was there and he's certain to have maintained nice connections with all the movers and shakers who can and will affect promotion to O-7.
 
MemberLG said:
I was serving on a Court martial jury, having family member crying did not work on us.
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Yet in this case, having a 2-star father in the courtroom, did.

Different spanks for different ranks.

An enlisted soldier or JO would have went straight to USDB. At a minimum they would have been discharged after pleading guilty to 13 criminal charges, and being found guilty of 2 others.

Yet he gets to say.

How proud we all must feel that he is still an officer in the US Army, an officer that once pledged to a code where one doesn't lie, cheat or steal (he did all 3), and we are paying him over $10,000 a month to represent this nation as a leader.

:rolleyes:
 
Luigi59 said:
Yet in this case, having a 2-star father in the courtroom, did.

Different spanks for different ranks.

An enlisted soldier or JO would have went straight to USDB. At a minimum they would have been discharged after pleading guilty to 13 criminal charges, and being found guilty of 2 others.

Yet he gets to say.

How proud we all must feel that he is still an officer in the US Army, an officer that once pledged to a code where one doesn't lie, cheat or steal (he did all 3), and we are paying him over $10,000 a month to represent this nation as a leader.

:rolleyes:
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He is part of a generation of feckless, careerist officers that just needs to "die off" (not literally) in the military, especially the Army.
 
I noticed that the topic of this thread drifted off into another thread so I thought it would be best to bump this thread back up for those who want to discuss this topic.
 
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