Discussion in 'Coast Guard Academy - USCGA' started by bossf51, Jul 1, 2008.
Got this from the New London Day.
That photo is a good subject for a 'Caption This!' thread.
Coming out of the head, I can only imagine what's going on there.
I respectfully ask the OP and the moderators of this forum to delete this picture before this
thread goes any further.
I realize this picture was posted for all to see however, in this context it is making fun of this cadet. R-Day is hard and emotional for many kids and their parents.
It is childish and disrespectful to be making fun of these kids and what they are experiencing.
I would not want the mother or father of this cadet to see this picture in this context.
We are fortunate that the technology is available for parents and families to see pictures of our kids - I don't think the Academies or the cadets and their families intend for them to be spread around the internet to be made fun of.
"It is childish and disrespectful to be making fun of these kids and what they are experiencing."
A year (if not at end of swab summer) from now this swab will be laughing himself about his first day experience.
then let him post it then - we will all laugh together.
I'm with you just a mom...
In the words of the immortal Sgt. Hulka, "lighten up, Franc(e)s. This appeared in a very respectable newspaper which covers the Academy on a virtual daily basis. It was not intended to be a joke despite the smiley face. I wanted to show admiration for the kid who is facing this kind of "abuse" despite being small in stature. It also reminded me of myself at about the same age.
Last summer I was perusing the random photos published on the USMAPS website of cadet candidates enduring CCBT. One of the photos showed a bald-headed kid wearing birth control goggles. The photo was a close-up and it looked like the cc's face was a billboard for pain and suffering. After studying the photo for a while I finally realized the subject was my son! I barely recognized him. And there he was, albeit unidentified, for the online world to see captured in an instant of hell.
We look at that photo and laugh. My son says it wasn't funny at the time, but now it makes him laugh. In fact, it is so telling that the photo now adorns the wall of the USMAPS cafeteria!
Bottom line: the kid lived through the moment recorded by the photographer and has the Army Strong attitude to show for it!
I don't think Boss meant any disrespect toward the poor kid. Still, to ensure no misundertstandings persist, I have added the article from which he took the photo. We hope the correct context will resolve any remaining uncertainties.
Trust me when I say this: that kid will look back someday and LHAO at that picture. I know because I did it to several pictures that I turned up in looking less than ready for the cover of GQ.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled thread.
But now you have completely changed the entire context of the original post.
It wasn't the article to which I was objecting but the picture and the context of the comment - I will admit can be construed in different tones.
I certainly don't expect Bossf51 to be making fun of a swab - but the comment with just the photo was troubling. While we can look at the picture and understand an uninformed visitor or relative may not.
Plebe summer at all the academies can be a really tough time. I am not sure that while our kids sign up to be perpetually humiliated by the cadre they sign up for public humilation as well.
So the concern has been addressed, yes?
Probably not z...reading the article I got a kick out of the business about Ali Shovalaloff's name...I know her quite well and she is a great kid...she had to be snickering under her breath when she gave the kid the business...it's all part of the game and the process so let's take a chill pill folks.
Maybe we can all agree that these swabs could have responded better to the questions.
Aside from getting the right answer, what would have been the "correct" way to answer?
At USNA we had different terminology and the only answer to give when you DON'T know the RIGHT answer is "I'll find out, Sir!", so I ask this question out of true ignorance of USCGA practices rather than as my usual wise-*** self.
No first person during Swab Summer. "Sir/Ma'am, Swab XXXX will find out, Sir/Ma'am."
Of course this also involves the swab reporting back, but they would usually just want to answer when asked next (which might not happen). What is not a great idea is saying you're going to find out and then not doing it.
Doesn't work in the real world, either!
swab summer trng
Do the swabs qualify with a pistol at any time during swab summer? My husband thought maybe they have to shoot the 9mm? I know they drill with their "piece" (gun, is that the right terminology?) while in formation. BTW, the one used in drills, is that a wooden replica of a certain rifle? Sorry if silly question, I'm not well-versed on weaponry and was curious...just really wanted to know what Coasties are armed with while on the boats, too. Thanks.
They will not shoot during swab summer, but will do so during their 2/c summer as cadre (before the swabs get there), or at least that's how we did it.
The Coast Guard is swithing from the 9mm to a Sig40 as our pistol.
Cadets march/drill with M-1 rifles, the originals, although they have been filled in with lead, so they cannot be fired (unfortunately, they are much heavier). The exception to this are 1/c, who march with swords.
Haha, they showed that picture on the big screen in Dimick earlier this summer. Everyone got a good laugh except this one Swab in the back....
Did he make it through swab summer? Inquiring minds want to know.
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