C in my senior year first semester...

As stated in Title 10: “An appointment is conditional until the midshipman is admitted.” NavyHoops provides the logical reasons for revoking an appointment.
 
NavyHoops said:
Just because the admissions committee reviews an application and makes a decision doesn’t mean an appointment will be coming. The board determines if they are qualified or not. If they are qualified it then goes to the Noms & Appointment board. This is where they start to slate candidates. If your DS is on a MOC slate that is unranked, he could be waiting until USNA makes a determination on who the slate winner is. An appointment could happen any day and all the way until mid-April. Most hear my late March. Also just because they asked for that info doesn’t mean that the package will immediately go back before the board. Once an appointment is offered they usually contact the MOC and give them a few days to call an appointee before they update portals.
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My DS also got a request for 7th semester grades shortly after his nomination from our senator, while we were waiting for the semester to finish to submit those grades he was awarded a principle nomination from our congressman. Finals are this week, with the grades in next week, his grades should be all A's, possibly one B, Will the principle nomination be the deciding factor?
 
CDGH716 said:
My DS also got a request for 7th semester grades shortly after his nomination from our senator, while we were waiting for the semester to finish to submit those grades he was awarded a principle nomination from our congressman. Finals are this week, with the grades in next week, his grades should be all A's, possibly one B, Will the principle nomination be the deciding factor?
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The nomination has little to do with whether or not the admissions board votes to extend an Offer of Appointment to the candidate.
He must be "close", meaning that he looks like a good candidate, but he is so close to the edge, that they have to see what his grades were for that extra semester.
If that's enough to put him over, then that may only make him qualified for an offer of appointment.
There will be around 3,000 candidates who are qualified and have nominations, but only around 1,400 of those will receive Offers of Appointment.
Of those 1,400 offers, around 125-150 will decline the offer, leaving a class of around 1,250 Plebes on I-Day.
 
My friend @NavyHoops and I are usually on the same page but I disagree a little here. Yes, the C may have an impact on your overall application, but in the calculation of the WCS, I would suggest that it is very minor.

I do not see the difference between a "B" or "C" in one class your senior year changing the opinion of the board from qualified to not qualified if EVERYTHING ELSE is strong.

He did hit the nail on the head about competition on your slate. The admissions board says yes/no to qualified no yes/no to appointment. If you are in a tight race with others on your slate, then it may move you down a bit.
 
1994, not sure I actually commented on the C in anyway. Just commented on how the board works and a few scenarios on how an appointment can be revoked. The C issue comes up every year and it’s a mixed bag of responses.
 
The nomination has little to do with whether or not the admissions board votes to extend an Offer of Appointment to the candidate.
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If someone receives a principal nom and is fully qualified, almost all of the time, that person will be offered an appointment. So, for a candidate already deemed "qualified" by the Board, a principal nom is a huge deal and usually leads to an appointment. If the nom is competitive, not principal, then the candidate must win his/her MOC slate or be selected out of the National Pool. If the question is whether receiving a principal nomination will make someone more competitive in the eyes of the Admissions Board in determining whether that candidate is "qualified," the answer is no. Being deemed "qualified" by the Board is a pre-requisite to being offered an appointment; it is not the same as being selected for an appointment.

As for a "C" in 7th semester making a difference . . . . IF the candidate has an appointment in hand, it won't cause USNA to rescind that appointment. However, for candidates asked by USNA to submit their 7th semester grades, it could well make a difference.
 
NavyHoops said:
1994, not sure I actually commented on the C in anyway. Just commented on how the board works and a few scenarios on how an appointment can be revoked. The C issue comes up every year and it’s a mixed bag of responses.
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Sorry, I confused you and @usna1985 . We seem to be in full agreement.
 
I did not know that the Admissions Board gave that much weight to a Principal Nomination.
Thanks, usna1985.
 
I have no info to help you, but let me say this. Good for you for taking AP Physics 2! My DS did too (junior year), got a C the first semester (his only C ever), and then ended the year with a B. So far, he appears to be still in the running with USNA. He was one of only a few students in his school, which is a top ranked school, who ventured to take that class, so perhaps that is your situation too. AP Physics 2 tends to be a very difficult class, but you challenged yourself and pursued an interest when presumably you did not need to do so and so many of your classmates likely opted for a easier road. If you are asked to send your mid-term grades, I would recommend you have your counselor send them and add an explanation regarding that class at your school, its difficulty and how many students are in the class. Then end the year strong! Good luck.
 
I did not know that the Admissions Board gave that much weight to a Principal Nomination.
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Just to be clear for anyone who might be confused . . . there are two different processes.

The first is the decision of the Admissions Board as to whether a candidate is "qualified." Whether a candidate does or doesn't have a nomination of any kind is irrelevant to this determination. In fact, most candidates are reviewed before noms are submitted by the MOCs, so this information isn't even available.

Once a candidate is fully qualified (by the Admissions Board, CFA and medical), THEN USNA decides whether to offer that candidate an appointment. As a general rule, if the candidate has received a principal nom, and is fully qualified, USNA will offer that candidate an appointment. Under the law, USNA is not required to offer the appointment to the principal but, in practice, they almost always do (this differs from USMA and USAFA -- the law is written slightly differently and they are required to give a qualified principal an appointment).
 
WestCoast22 said:
I have no info to help you, but let me say this. Good for you for taking AP Physics 2! My DS did too (junior year), got a C the first semester (his only C ever), and then ended the year with a B. So far, he appears to be still in the running with USNA. He was one of only a few students in his school, which is a top ranked school, who ventured to take that class, so perhaps that is your situation too. AP Physics 2 tends to be a very difficult class, but you challenged yourself and pursued an interest when presumably you did not need to do so and so many of your classmates likely opted for a easier road. If you are asked to send your mid-term grades, I would recommend you have your counselor send them and add an explanation regarding that class at your school, its difficulty and how many students are in the class. Then end the year strong! Good luck.
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Thank you so much for your advice. I really needed some direction on what to do and how to explain myself in case they did ask.
 
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