Class of 2019 Service Assignment

Around 10 each year. Normally due to injury or not qualified to serve in unrestricted line. Very few by choice.
 
I corrected my post as I had the restricted line under URL. There are more than when I was there with the growth of the IW/IP communities. And medical falls under RL too. Apparently I was asleep that day or something when I posted those.
 
NavyHoops said:
I corrected my post as I had the restricted line under URL. There are more than when I was there with the growth of the IW/IP communities. And medical falls under RL too. Apparently I was asleep that day or something when I posted those.
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I appreciate it. That scared me.

So if I am reading this right ... about 226 or roughly 20% are jobs my son can do as color blind?

So double the LOAs given? So certainly my son would like a waiver! ;)
 
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Will USNA- SWO - Ship Selection Night be video streamed live this year ? I’ve got an 0-3 attending and welcoming Firsties that select his DDG and I would enjoy watching the program.
Go NAVY,G5
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You'll also be able to access the stream via the USNA FB page and if you're not on social media you can watch live by clicking on:
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-.../surfacewarfare/midshipmen/Pages/default.aspx

While the link has not been posted yet, it will be soon. On this site you can also see the list of all the ports and ships that they will be selecting from.
 
The CEC, Cryptology, Supply, etc. are Restricted Line or Staff Corps.
 
They will select their MOS while they attend The Basic School. This is a link an ROTC handbook that has a list of USMC Officer MOSs and breakdown samples. Each class will have a different number of MOS openings based upon needs, but the sample should help get perspective. It also gives percentages of getting your first pick and beyond, how selection works and a wealth of other info.

http://rotc.navy.illinois.edu/uploads/2/3/3/8/23382276/moshandbook2.rtf
 
NavyHoops said:
Restricted Line
  • Supply - 8
  • CEC - 4
  • Intel - 8
  • CW- 21
  • IP - 6
  • Oceanography - 1
  • Medical Corps - 12
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I've done some research on restricted/unrestricted line officers, but I am still confused about it. Are restricted jobs based on medical or are restricted jobs based on your SPECIFIC job? Hope this question makes sense.
 
The goal is to commission as many unrestricted line officers as possible. Those who go restricted line either have a medical issue (color blind, over 6’6”, injuries, etc) or competed for the very limited spots. Those who compete are usually more in the medical and information warfare/protection area.
 
23Lt said:
I've done some research on restricted/unrestricted line officers, but I am still confused about it. Are restricted jobs based on medical or are restricted jobs based on your SPECIFIC job? Hope this question makes sense.
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Navy officers are classified into categories: line officers, restricted line officers and staff corps officers. There are also limited duty officers and chief warrant officers, who come from the enlisted ranks, and who are very technically focused. They are not created out of USNA.

All communities have a general career path with milestones. If an officer is performing at the pack-plus level (as opposed to pack and pack-minus), he or she should promote on time and progress to assignments that ensure continued promotability.

Line officers can fill a variety of billets, afloat and ashore, and are eligible to command at sea or ashore. A pilot, a line officer whose warfare community is naval aviation, will focus his or her career primarily on progressively larger jobs in the aviation career path. At times, they may work ashore at a training command, be XO at a recruiting district and ideally, command a squadron, possibly an aircraft carrier, battle groups and fleets, and become CNO, Chief of Naval Operations, or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - the highest ranks and leadership roles in the Navy. Operational expertise in that line warfare community is the bread and butter core, but they most also acquire broadly-based leadership skills and knowledge that lead to combatant commands. Surface (SWO), nuke SWO, aviation, subs, EOD, and I am blanking for the moment on others.

Restricted line officers tend to work primarily in their specialties, which could be mostly shore-based with occasional sea duty. They command in their own specialty, can rise to flag rank and positions of great responsibility - but not to the heights of line officer roles. Oceanographic, Intel, IW, HR, Engineering Duty Officer, etc.

Staff officers are the professional expertise folks: doctors, nurses, dentists, medical service, lawyers (JAG), supply corps (the business brains), CEC (civil engineer), etc. They serve almost exclusively in their own communities, can command in their communities (a military hospital, a dental command, a Navy Supply Center, a legal command, etc.), and can reach flag rank.

As you can see, all officer communities are important and contribute to mission accomplishment in their own way. Line officers are primarily experts in their own warfare community, but broaden the scope of their skills to leadership roles with huge scope and responsibility, and can rise to lead the Fleet. Restricted line simply means those officers have focus areas that are narrower than the line community, and they are looked to as the experts in their field.

Yes, some people find themselves in RL or staff corps because of a med DQ, but many choose to go that path - I’m speaking broadly across all commissioning sources. Some may go directly from their commissioning source, if their commissioning source allows it, or they go line, and a few years down the road, apply for a lateral transfer through a competitive board process. Many go that route to JAG, Med Corps, IW, etc.

As always, the needs of the Navy will dictate what’s available to those mids who cannot go line, either because they were waived for a known condition coming in or because something was caught on their pre-comm physical.

It’s worth noting the Med Corp slots are not reserved for URL DQ mids. There are roughly 13-16 of those slots available each year, and mids compete for the opportunity. They must score high enough on the MCAT and get accepted to an accredited med school.
 
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Certain types of jobs are considered Staff Corps and Restricted Line. For example, Intel, Cryptology and Aviation Maintenance Duty Officer are examples of Restricted Line. Supply is Staff Corps. You can only select those out of USNA if you are medically DQ'ed from URL.

Some jobs cannot be selected directly out of USNA. These include Nurse Corps, JAG, Medical Service Corps and some others.

Cross-posted with Capt. MJ
 
Capt MJ said:
23Lt said:
I've done some research on restricted/unrestricted line officers, but I am still confused about it. Are restricted jobs based on medical or are restricted jobs based on your SPECIFIC job? Hope this question makes sense.
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Navy officers are classified into categories: line officers, restricted line officers and staff corps officers. There are also limited duty officers and chief warrant officers, who come from the enlisted ranks, and who are very technically focused. They are not created out of USNA.

All communities have a general career path with milestones. If an officer is performing at the pack-plus level (as opposed to pack and pack-minus), he or she should promote on time and progress to assignments that ensure continued promotability.

Line officers can fill a variety of billets, afloat and ashore, and are eligible to command at sea or ashore. A pilot, a line officer whose warfare community is naval aviation, will focus his or her career primarily on progressively larger jobs in the aviation career path. At times, they may work ashore at a training command, be XO at a recruiting district and ideally, command a squadron, possibly an aircraft carrier, battle groups and fleets, and become CNO, Chief of Naval Operations, or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - the highest ranks and leadership roles in the Navy. Operational expertise in that line warfare community is the bread and butter core, but they most also acquire broadly-based leadership skills and knowledge that lead to combatant commands. Surface (SWO), nuke SWO, aviation, subs, EOD, and I am blanking for the moment on others.

Restricted line officers tend to work primarily in their specialties, which could be mostly shore-based with occasional sea duty. They command in their own specialty, can rise to flag rank and positions of great responsibility - but not to the heights of line officer roles. Oceanographic, Intel, IW, HR, Engineering Duty Officer, etc.

Staff officers are the professional expertise folks: doctors, nurses, dentists, medical service, lawyers (JAG), supply corps (the business brains), CEC (civil engineer), etc. They serve almost exclusively in their own communities, can command in their communities (a military hospital, a dental command, a Navy Supply Center, a legal command, etc.), and can reach flag rank.

As you can see, all officer communities are important and contribute to mission accomplishment in their own way. Line officers are primarily experts in their own warfare community, but broaden the scope of their skills to leadership roles with huge scope and responsibility, and can rise to lead the Fleet. Restricted line simply means those officers have focus areas that are narrower than the line community, and they are looked to as the experts in their field.

Yes, some people find themselves in RL or staff corps because of a med DQ, but many choose to go that path - I’m speaking broadly across all commissioning sources. Some may go directly from their commissioning source, if their commissioning source allows it, or they go line, and a few years down the road, apply for a lateral transfer through a competitive board process. Many go that route to JAG, Med Corps, IW, etc.

As always, the needs of the Navy will dictate what’s available to those mids who cannot go line, either because they were waived for a known condition coming in or because something was caught on their pre-comm physical.

It’s worth noting the Med Corp slots are not reserved for URL DQ mids. There are roughly 13-16 of those slots available each year, and mids compete for the opportunity. They must score high enough on the MCAT and get accepted to an accredited med school.
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Wow! Thank you very much for the information. It definitely broadened my knowledge on commissioned officers in the Navy.
 
@23Lt

And a bit more...to fill your trivia bin.

All officer billets (jobs) are coded to show what officers can be assigned to them.

All officers are assigned a 4-digit code that reflects their warfare community as well as whether they are fully warfare-qualified, if applicable.

For example, a fully qualified naval aviator, pilot, is a 1310. Right out of their commissioning source, that aviator would have been a 1390. That is their “designator,” used in the same way MOS is used in other services. Yes, the Navy always has to have different lingo. We’ll ask “what’s your designator,” not MOS.

The “1” in the designator means unrestricted line (URL) or restricted line (RL). Staff Corps designators start with a number other than 1, such as Supply Corps, 3100. If the designator ends in 5, that signifies Reserve.

If our aviator is assigned to a squadron, she’ll be assigned against a 13XX billet. XX means either a pilot or naval flight officer (1320) can fill it. Or, it could be specific, 1310 or 1320.
Later on, our aviator rolls ashore, and is assigned as an officer recruiter at a Navy Recruiting District. That billet she is ordered into may well be a 1000 billet - any URL officer can fill. Or it could be 13XX, because an aviator is specifically desired.

RL folks are usually assigned into specific RL billets by designator, because that is the nature of their business. At our aviator’s squadron, there is likely to be a 3100 Supply Corps staff officer, and depending on the mission and airframe type, could have RL Intel, and Aviation Engineering Duty Officer and perhaps others, all performing their specific specialty.

Anyone’s eyes glazed over yet? I swear I don’t know why this stuff has stuck like lint in my brain for so long. If it gives any insight, great.
 
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12-15 is about normal. But there is really a Star next to that. That is contingent on them getting accepted to a medical school. If they don’t, they will be given another assignment. I think my class had one person that happened to.
 
NavyHoops said:
12-15 is about normal. But there is really a Star next to that. That is contingent on them getting accepted to a medical school. If they don’t, they will be given another assignment. I think my class had one person that happened to.
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My class had no billets available for Med School, the class before us had a few but we and the classes immediately after us had zero. Despite that, I have a number of classmates who are medical doctors. Surprisingly (at least to me) we have even more who are ministers of one denomination or another. At least two became rather senior Navy Chaplains, one of which became a flag officer.
 
@OldRetSWO sounds a lot like my class! I think we have more who became doctors or dentists out of service than in. Not sure my class has any clergy, but my 3/C when I was a Plebe is now a Priest and a buddy of mine is a nun! The path grads take in and out of uniform is an interesting one.
 
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