Class of 2022 DIY USNA Appointment Thread

[texashopeful2022]

Hi Everyone. Haven't posted anything in about a year but it was worth the wait.

123) Navydad70/DS/No LOA/28-Mar-18/Will Accept/TN/Congressional/College Re-Applicant

Hi Everyone. Haven't posted anything in about a year but it was worth the wait.

123) Navydad70/DS/No LOA/28-Mar-18/Will Accept/TN/Congressional/College Re-Applicant

Exciting..Congratulations to your DS! Go Navy!

 

[Tobycat2022]

Anybody heard anything today?

Nada.

No! I heard from my BGO that 8 people in our area are still waiting. She describes as moving puzzle pieces around to build the class.

Anybody heard anything today?

Nada.

Nothing !!

 

[TexMex2022]

USNA Class of 2022 Appointments:
1) Hollywood / DD / No LOA / 14-Sep-17 / Accepted / NY / USNA Superintendent's / Direct Appointment
2) TechFlier7 / Self / LOA / 18-Sep-17 / Accepted / CA / Presidential / Direct Appointment
3) CrewDad / DS / LOA / 16-Jan-18 / Undecided / NY-03 / Congressional / ??
4) klcm54a / DS / LOA / 13-Nov-17 / Declined / AK / Presidential /DirectAppointment
5) Johnathan / DS / No LOA / 13-Nov-17 / Accepted / NC-04 / NJROTC / Direct Appointment
6) Captnc / DS / No LOA / 13-Nov-17 / Accepted / LA / Presidential / Direct Appointment
7) rock_on_USNA2022 / Self / LOA / 13-Nov-17 / Accepted / LA-06 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
8) SRJ / Self / No LOA / 17-Nov-17 /Undecided / ?? / Presidential / Direct Appointment
9) DenMammo / Self / LOA / 17-Nov-17 / Undecided / IN / Congressional / Direct Appointment
10) thunderheadc6 / DS / LOA / 21-Nov-17 / Accepted / FL-03 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
11) PilotTim89 / DS / LOA / 22-Nov-17 / Accepted / IN / Senatorial / ??
12) techygirl / Self / LOA / 22-Nov-17 / Accepted / GA / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
13) sediaz / Self / LOA / 28-Nov-17 / Accepted / SD / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
14) SouthernMom / DD / LOA / 30-Nov-17 / Accepted / NC / Congressional & Senatorial / ??
15) 601mom / DD / No LOA / 01-Dec-17 / Accepted / MS / Congressional, Senatorial, & ROTC / Direct Appointment
16) ehet22 / Self / No LOA / 11-Dec-17 / Accepted / PA-05 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
17) mjm / DD / LOA / 13-Dec-17 / Accepted/ CT / Congressional / Direct Appointment
18) esteller / Self / LOA / 13-Dec-17 / Accepted / WY / Congressional / ??
19) justdoit19 / DS / LOA / 15-Dec-17 / Accepted / IA / Congressional & Senatorial / DirectAppointment
20) ORKP2017 / DD / No LOA / 15-Dec-17 / Accepted / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
21) Iceskatemom / DS / LOA / 18-Dec-17 /Accepted / AZ / Congressional /Direct Appointment
22) topsailorgirl / DD / LOA / 20-Dec-17 / Accepted / VA / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
23) Fast18s / DS / LOA / 21-Dec-17 / Accepted / TX-05 / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
24) TrueBlue88 / DS / No LOA / 28-Dec-17 / Accepted / SC / Congressional / Direct Appointment
25) Alan99 / Self / LOA / 02-Jan-18 /Accepted / TX / Congressional / DirectAppointment
26) futuresquid888 / Self / LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Accepted / CA / Congressional / DirectAppointment
27) hopeful2022 / Self / No LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Accepted / IL / Congressional / Direct Appointment
28) j399 / Self / LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Accepted/ MD / Congressional / Direct Appointment
29) Zeus / DS / No LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Accepted / WA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
30) Bub6 / DS / No LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Accepted / VA-10 / Presidential / Direct Appointment
31) navyhope123 / Self / LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Undecided / CA-17 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
32) RunningMoose / Self / LOA / 02-Jan-18 / Accepted / CO-04 / Congressional / DirectAppointment
33) dervogel / Self / LOA / 05-Jan-18 / Undecided / TX-25 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
34) gala10 / DS / No LOA / 05-Jan-18 / Accepted / WA-02 / Congressional & Presidential / Direct Appointment
35) goldwinger / DD / No LOA / 06-Jan-18 / Accepted / TX / Congressional, Senatorial, & Presidential / Direct Appointment
36) USNA4MyDD22 / DD / LOA / 11-Jan-18 / Accepted / MA-09 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
37) USA3210 / Self / LOA / 11-Jan-18 / Accepted / NJ-06 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
38) JM45 / DS / No LOA / 12-Jan-18 / Accepted / IL-18 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
39) BreakItBuyIt / Self / No LOA / 11-Jan-18 / Will Accept / CA-10 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
40) ncnordicfamily / DS / LOA / 11-Jan-18 / Will Accept / NY-21 /Congressional /Direct Appointment
41) cocodesp2022 / Self / No LOA / 11-Jan-18 / Accepted / AR / Congressional / Direct Appointment
42) nhstudent2018 / Self / No LoA / 27-Nov-17 / Accepted / NH-01 / Congressional / Naval AcademyPreparatory School
43) wade688 / DD / No LOA / 05-Jan-18 / Accepted / GA / Congressional / DirectAppointment
44) VDI / Self / LOA / 17-Jan-18 /Undecided/ MN-05 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
45) GAdawg / DS / No LOA / 19-Jan-18 / Accepted / GA-13 / Congressional /Direct Appointment
46) AinaHaina / DS / No LOA / 19-Jan-18 / Accepted / HI / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
47) schen732 / Self / LOA / 23-Jan-18 / Accepted / CA-38 / Congressional / DirectAppointment
48) Navymom2022 / DS / No LOA / 23-Jan-18 / Accepted / IL-01 / Congressional & Senatorial / DirectAppointment
49) Musicman / Self / LOA / 24-Jan-18 / Will Accept / VA-01 / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
50) izyizy83686 / Self / No LOA / 26-Jan-18 / Will Accept / GA-12 /Congressional & Senatorial / College Re-Applicant
51) amem1997 / DS / No LOA / 27-Jan-18 / Will Accept / MA / Congressional / DirectAppointment
52) ss18 / Self / LOA / 23-Jan-18 / Accepted/ GA-11 /Congressional / Direct Appointment
53) 20Navy22 / Self / No LOA / 23-Jan-18 / Accepted / PA-04 / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
54) rugbyplayer33 / Self / No LOA / 23-Jan-18 / Accepted / WI-01 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
55) stud_muffin722 / ?? / No LOA / 31-Jan-18 / Accepted / NV-03 / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
56) beachcomber70 / DS / LOA / 11-Jan-18 / Accepted / MD / Congressional / Direct Appointment
57) SMT / Self / No LOA / 31-Jan-18 / Undecided / VA-10 / Congressional & NROTC / Direct Appointment
58) QueenBeeBoyMom / DS / No LOA / 31-Jan-18 / Accepted / TX-15 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
59) KappaPi / DS / No LOA / 29-Jan-18 / Accepted / NY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
60) graham3570 / DS / No LOA / 12-Jan-18 / Accepted / AL-06 /Congressional & Senatorial / DirectAppointment
61) ship_shape / DS / No LOA / 07-Feb-18 / Accepted / SC-01 / Congressional & Presidential / Direct Appointment
62) dmc 43 / DS / LOA / 07-Feb-18 / Accepted / MI-14 / Congressional &Senatorial / Direct Appointment
63) Soleil / DS / LOA / 07-Feb-18 / Accepted/ MD / Congressional / Direct Appointment
64) MOMUSNA22 / DS / LOA / 07-Feb-18 / Will Accept / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
65) ArmyNavyFam / DS / LOA / o7-Feb-18 / Accepted / GA-01 / Congressional & Presidential / Direct Appointment
66) 2022mom / DS / No LOA / 02-Feb-18 / Will Accept / FL / Congressional, Senatorial, & Presidential / Direct Appointment
67) dustinhov3r / Self / No LOA / 08-Feb-18 / Undecided / MS / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
68) cadetH4330 / Self / No LOA / 09-Feb-18 / Declined / GA-09 / Congressional / DirectAppointment
69) Proudmama1103 / DS / No LOA / 09-Feb-18 / Will Accept / FL / Congressional /Direct Appointment
70) UsnaCandidate2022 / Self / LOA / ??-Feb-18 / Accepted/ TN / Congressional& SECNAV / Direct Appointment
71) LANavy / DS / LOA / 05-Feb-18 / Accepted / LA /Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
72) cb2022/ DS/ No LOA / 10-Feb-18 / Undecided / FL-02 /Congressional / Direct Appointment
73) USNAVLake / Self / No LOA/ 05-Feb-18 / Accepted / WI-02 / Congressional & Senatorial / College Re-Applicant
74) Jpwolfe / Self / LOA / 08-Feb-18 / Undecided / NY-16 / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
75) Kierkegaard / Self / ?? / 14-Feb-18 /Accepted/ NY / Congressional / Re-applicant
76) Dylan7130 / Self / ?? / 14-Feb-18 / Accepted / CA-29 /Congressional & JROTC / Direct Appointment
77) jdawg / DS / No LOA / 14-Feb-18 /Accepted / OK /Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
78) cfj2022 / Self / No LOA / 14-Feb-18 / Undecided / NY-18 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
79) vaquero / Grandson / No LOA / 14-Feb-18 / Undecided / AZ-01 /Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
80) MichaelW22 / Self / No LOA / 14-Feb-18 / Accepted / VA-02 / Senatorial & Presidential / Direct Appointment
81) Another2017hopeful / Self / LOA / 15-Feb-18 / Will Accept / WI-05 / Congressional &Senatorial / College Re-Applicant
82) mcneill18d / Self / LOA / 21-Feb-18 / Accepted / NC-05 / Congressional / DirectAppointment
83) Sergtim / DS / No LAO / 19-Feb-18 / Undecided / NC-08 / Congressional /DirectAppointment
84) NJGriff / Self / LOA / 21-Feb-18 /Accepted / NJ-04 / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
85) PinWrestling / Self / No LOA / 21-Feb-18 / Accepted / FL-02 / Congressional & Presidential / College Re-Applicant
86) navy8921 / Self / No LOA / 21-Feb-18 /Accepted / VA-04 / Congressional & Presidential / College Re-Applicant
87) Thawk21 / DD / No LOA / 09-Feb-18/ Accepted / OR-04 / Congressional, Senatorial, & Presidential / DirectAppointment
88) 123489 / Self/ No LOA / 21-Feb-18 / Undecided / VT / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
89) A6Edad / DS / No LOA / 26-Jan-18 / Accepted / MA-02 / Congressional, Senatorial, ROTC / College Re-Applicant
90) USNA_Dad2019 / BGO Report / No LOA / 19-Feb-18 / Accepted / MS-04 /Congressional,Senatorial, & Presidential / Direct Appointment
91) Dje77USNA / Self / No LOA / 23-Feb-18 / Will Accept / CA-33 / Congressional / DirectAppointment
92) usma2022ct/ Self / No LOA/ 11-Feb-18/ Undecided/ CT-03/ Congressionaland Senatorial/ College Re-Applicant
93) emiwar/ self/ No LOA/ 17-Feb-18/ Accepted/ NC-13/ Congressional andSenatorial/ Direct Appointment
94) creatine123/ Self / No LOA / 21-Feb-18/ Accepted/ TX-18 / Congressional and Senatorial / Direct Appointment
95) reapplicant_2017 / Self / No LOA / 26-Feb-18 / Will Accept / IN-03 / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
96) Superprouddad / DS / No LOA / 21-Feb-18 / Accepted / MN-01 / Congressional & NROTC / College Re-Applicant
97) Hopeful-Dad / DS / No LOA / 28-Feb-18 / Accepted / UT-04 / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
98) USNA2022_Mom / DS / LOA / 28-Feb-18 / Undecided / CA-15 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
99) SconniDad / DS / LOA / 17-Jan-18 / Accepted / WI-07 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
100) Excited46/28 / Self / No LOA / 28-Feb-18 / Accepted / TX-23 / MOC / Direct Appointment
101) Leon / Self / LOA / 18-Jan-18/ Accepted/ UT-01 /Presidential & ROTC / Direct Appointment
102) SA Prospective Student / Self / No LOA / 28- Feb-18 / Accepted / GA-11 /Congressional/ Direct Appointment
103) usna2022? / Self / LOA / 14-Feb-18 / Undecided / NC-08 / Presidential & Senatorial /Direct Appointment
104) RockNRoll / DS / No LOA / 28-Feb-18 /Accepted / KY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
105) swimmermama1 / DS / LOA / 08-Mar-18 / Accepted / PA-06 / Congressional & Senatorial / College Re-Applicant
106) alisao / DS / LOA / 08-Mar-18/ Will Accept / WA-10 / Presidential, Senatorial, & Congressional / Direct Appointment
107) Texas10 / DS / LOA / 08-Mar-18 / Accepted / TX-10 / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
108) NoGaNavyMom / DD / No LOA / 09-Mar-18 / Will Accept / GA-14 / Congressional & NROTC / College Re-Applicant
109) USNAMA2022hopeful / Self / No LOA / 09-Mar-18 / Undecided / MA-01 / Congressional & Presidential / Direct Appointment
110) jacobfoster18 / Self / No LOA / 08-Mar-18 / Undecided / VA-08 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
111) Trueblue22 / DS / No LOA / 12-Mar-18 / Accepted / CA / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
112) Whovian / DD / LOA / 09-Mar-18 / ?? / PR / Congressional / ??
113) ProudAirdale / DS / LOA / 14-Mar-18 / Undecided / NY-05 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
114) GoUSNA / Self / LOA / 14-Mar-18 / Accepted / VA-10 / Congressional & Senatorial / Direct Appointment
115) lottsofgirls / DD / LOA / 14-Mar-18 / Undecided / OH-08/Senatorial & Congressional / Direct Appointment
116) Temple17 / Self / No LOA / 15-Mar-18 /Will Accept / TX-31 / Congressional / Direct Appointment / College Re-Applicant
117) TexMex2022 / Self / LOA / 8-Jan-18 / Accepted / TX-25 / Congressional / Direct Appointment
118) Do--Amroth / Self / No LOA/ 20-Mar-18 / Declined / AK-01 / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
119) DadInSC / DD / No LOA / 11-Mar-18 / Accepted / SC / Senatorial / Direct Appointment / College Re-Applicant
120) Prentiss/DS/No LOA/25-Jan-18/Accepted/TN/Congressional/DirectAppointment
121) usnahopeful09 / Self / No LOA / 12-Jan-18 / Accepted / AK / Congressional / Direct Appointment
122) USNAMomma/DS/No LOA/17-Dec-17/Accepted/VA-10/Presidential/Direct Appointment
123) Navydad70/DS/No LOA/28-Mar-18/Will Accept/TN/Congressional/College Re-Applicant

NOTE: Added "Navydad70" to the existing list

 

[statechamps2017]

I got a strange call yesterday from my MOC. I have been CPR since December and my BGO told me that I was 3Q. I've been thinking that, with all of the recent turndowns, that still being CPR at this stage is a good thing. He said he didn't know the status of my application but "If USNA doesn't work out I can write you a recommendation for NROTC." I explained that I already had my NROTC application completed and was waiting as my Plan B. He said that he would look into it and someone would call me in a week or two.

It seems weird that he would call me to tell me this. I haven't seen any other situations like this on these forums so I'm not sure what to make of it. If I had to guess I would assume that he, in fact, does know that I'm being rejected and is trying to soften me up with an NROTC recommendation. He made it seem like he was going to "offer" me NROTC.

Has anyone else had this happen? Or, am I reading too much into this?

 

[justdoit19]

MOC is probably familiar with the process and experience with the timing (TWE’s and offers really start rolling in), and was checking in on someone he/she sees a lot of potential in! That’s very exciting and encouraging. You should be very proud to receive that call. If not for this year, then for next!! Hang in there. I cannot imagine how hard this is for everyone. Such a testament to patience.

 

[statechamps2017]

MOC is probably familiar with the process and experience with the timing (TWE’s and offers really start rolling in), and was checking in on someone he/she sees a lot of potential in! That’s very exciting and encouraging. You should be very proud to receive that call. If not for this year, then for next!! Hang in there. I cannot imagine how hard this is for everyone. Such a testament to patience.

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

 

[ChoirDude]

My son is awaiting decision for USNA but received his NROTC notice of award in late February. The boards for ROTC are still meeting (my kid has AROTC decision pending) so it seems that decisions both yay and nay are still being made for both the service academies as well as ROTC scholarships. Good luck!

 

[justdoit19]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

 

[statechamps2017]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

 

[Doolieplebe]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

Is this your only nom source? Do you happen to know how many of MOC's five slots are open? It sounds like he's been telegraphing to you all along the way that, as you are his #2, there's only so much he could do for you as far as USNA goes. It is curious that he'd call given the timing and all. So, it may be that he got the obligatory headsup from admissions about his slate winner, and he felt compelled to reach out to his #2. Hang in there. We'll all find out very soon, I gotta think.

 

[Doolieplebe]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

Is this your only nom source? Do you happen to know how many of MOC's five slots are open? It sounds like he's been telegraphing to you all along the way that, as you are his #2, there's only so much he could do for you as far as USNA goes. It is curious that he'd call given the timing and all. So, it may be that he got the obligatory headsup from admissions about his slate winner, and he felt compelled to reach out to his #2. Hang in there. We'll all find out very soon, I gotta think.

And BTW, maybe reconsider MOC's offer for MMA? You can still commission USN.

 

[THParent]

Well, you could commission as an active-duty USN officer out of USMMA "in times of mobilization or during emergency situations", but otherwise we're talking Naval Reserve (if an offer is tendered) for 8 years after graduation.

 

[New@This]

Well, you could commission as an active-duty USN officer out of USMMA "in times of mobilization or during emergency situations", but otherwise we're talking Naval Reserve (if an offer is tendered) for 8 years after graduation.

I don't believe that is the case. Students have the opportunity to commission into any of the branches after graduation from USMMA. Approximately 1/3 of the class will choose to go active duty. Those who are not active duty will be Naval Reserve.

 

[THParent]

If that is the case, then I stand corrected. The USMMA website is certainly not clear on that point, at all.

 

[Capt MJ]

Well, you could commission as an active-duty USN officer out of USMMA "in times of mobilization or during emergency situations", but otherwise we're talking Naval Reserve (if an offer is tendered) for 8 years after graduation.

Their commission is characterized as Reserve, I believe, whether they go AD or active Reserve. Their service is active duty, for those who have applied for AD after graduation - there are options for active AF, Army, Navy, Marine Corps, USCG, NOAA. If they go to the civilian maritime industry, they have to satisfactorily maintain their status as active Navy Reserve officers by earning enough training points each year. It’s always clunky to explain. The percentage of the class going AD always seems to vary with the state of hiring for the maritime industry.

 

[New@This]

From the USMMA website:

"Each year, approximately 20-25% of new graduates choose to fulfill the service/employment portion of their service obligation by serving as commissioned officers on active duty in one of the Armed Forces of the United States or in the NOAA Corps or USPHS Corps. As with service as a merchant marine officer sailing aboard U.S.-flagged vessels, active duty service is automatically approved by MARAD and does not require special permission or documentation."

https://www.usmma.edu/after-graduation/obligation-compliance

 

[statechamps2017]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

Is this your only nom source? Do you happen to know how many of MOC's five slots are open? It sounds like he's been telegraphing to you all along the way that, as you are his #2, there's only so much he could do for you as far as USNA goes. It is curious that he'd call given the timing and all. So, it may be that he got the obligatory headsup from admissions about his slate winner, and he felt compelled to reach out to his #2. Hang in there. We'll all find out very soon, I gotta think.

Yes, only nom source. Our senators work with districts to coordinate and not offer double nominations...giving more people opportunities. He told me the first time we talked that he had one spot available at USNA. I didn't apply to USMMA before the deadline and, besides, I already told him that Naval service was my goal. I want to pursue Engineering as a focus and USMMA is more about logistics, maritime rules, supply chain/distribution, etc. Even commissioning into the USN after graduation I still would not get the education focus that I'm shooting for. It isn't just about free tuition for me. It is about life goals.

Your point is exactly what I was thinking too. His #1 choice accepted so he called me to offer whatever help he can. If that is true then I still have a shot through the national pool. I think there are something like 2,000 people in that pool competing for 200, or so, appointments. Or so I've heard. But I don't know how that process works at all. Do they just offer appointments from MOC's with open slots even if they are out of state/district? Either way, not much I can do about it now.

This process has been interesting for sure. I have met several people who have all had different experiences. One person I met was the first alternate two years in a row and didn't get in. Another person I know didn't get in his first try but reapplied the next year and got in as 3rd alternate...he was offered appointment in May. Nothing to do now but wait, pray, and prepare for all scenarios.

 

[usna_app]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

Is this your only nom source? Do you happen to know how many of MOC's five slots are open? It sounds like he's been telegraphing to you all along the way that, as you are his #2, there's only so much he could do for you as far as USNA goes. It is curious that he'd call given the timing and all. So, it may be that he got the obligatory headsup from admissions about his slate winner, and he felt compelled to reach out to his #2. Hang in there. We'll all find out very soon, I gotta think.

Yes, only nom source. Our senators work with districts to coordinate and not offer double nominations...giving more people opportunities. He told me the first time we talked that he had one spot available at USNA. I didn't apply to USMMA before the deadline and, besides, I already told him that Naval service was my goal. I want to pursue Engineering as a focus and USMMA is more about logistics, maritime rules, supply chain/distribution, etc. Even commissioning into the USN after graduation I still would not get the education focus that I'm shooting for. It isn't just about free tuition for me. It is about life goals.

Your point is exactly what I was thinking too. His #1 choice accepted so he called me to offer whatever help he can. If that is true then I still have a shot through the national pool. I think there are something like 2,000 people in that pool competing for 200, or so, appointments. Or so I've heard. But I don't know how that process works at all. Do they just offer appointments from MOC's with open slots even if they are out of state/district? Either way, not much I can do about it now.

This process has been interesting for sure. I have met several people who have all had different experiences. One person I met was the first alternate two years in a row and didn't get in. Another person I know didn't get in his first try but reapplied the next year and got in as 3rd alternate...he was offered appointment in May. Nothing to do now but wait, pray, and prepare for all scenarios.

Is the National pool really that big?

 

[Kierkegaard]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

Is this your only nom source? Do you happen to know how many of MOC's five slots are open? It sounds like he's been telegraphing to you all along the way that, as you are his #2, there's only so much he could do for you as far as USNA goes. It is curious that he'd call given the timing and all. So, it may be that he got the obligatory headsup from admissions about his slate winner, and he felt compelled to reach out to his #2. Hang in there. We'll all find out very soon, I gotta think.

Yes, only nom source. Our senators work with districts to coordinate and not offer double nominations...giving more people opportunities. He told me the first time we talked that he had one spot available at USNA. I didn't apply to USMMA before the deadline and, besides, I already told him that Naval service was my goal. I want to pursue Engineering as a focus and USMMA is more about logistics, maritime rules, supply chain/distribution, etc. Even commissioning into the USN after graduation I still would not get the education focus that I'm shooting for. It isn't just about free tuition for me. It is about life goals.

Your point is exactly what I was thinking too. His #1 choice accepted so he called me to offer whatever help he can. If that is true then I still have a shot through the national pool. I think there are something like 2,000 people in that pool competing for 200, or so, appointments. Or so I've heard. But I don't know how that process works at all. Do they just offer appointments from MOC's with open slots even if they are out of state/district? Either way, not much I can do about it now.

This process has been interesting for sure. I have met several people who have all had different experiences. One person I met was the first alternate two years in a row and didn't get in. Another person I know didn't get in his first try but reapplied the next year and got in as 3rd alternate...he was offered appointment in May. Nothing to do now but wait, pray, and prepare for all scenarios.

Good on you for taking into account the nature of the education you'll recieve. When I visited USMMA, most of their mids I talked to swore it was the absolute best choice due to the broad slate of options available upon graduation. Ironically, many also admitted to attending it over the other academies simply because it was the only one they were offered a nomination to. I think USMMA is awesome, but it is no doubt vocationally focused. Having said that, the subjects you mentioned are only one side of what they teach. Mids there can also choose the marine engineering track, which is a very robust program. Depending on what branch of engineering you're interested in, you may like what Kings Point offers. If you don't get USNA this year and decide to re-apply, KP is actually a pretty good option if you want to be an engineer and a naval officer.

 

[statechamps2017]

My NROTC application has been complete for some time with no decision. My recruiting officer told me that a decision will come in May. I have friends who did not apply to any SA and received their ROTC decisions long ago. I think, but I'm not sure, that since SA and ROTC applications are somewhat connected they hold off on ROTC decisions until the SA's make their decision. Why give an ROTC scholarship to someone who gets accepted into an SA?

You might be right about the timing. I was his 1st alternate nominee. So he should know if his primary nominee has accepted, which may have prompted his call. His primary nominee accepts so he calls me to offer his help re: NROTC, assuming that I don't get selected from the national pool.

A couple things: academy and rotc programs are indeed independent of each other. They don’t decide or hold off offers based upon the others offers. DS actually received AFROTC, NROTC, and an appointment to USNA. So treat them completely separately. You can look around the rotc forums and find discussion about that as well as here.

Also, the NROTC scholarships are considered each board review, so you are not out until the boards are completely over and/or you are told no. I’m not an expert on that at all but that’s another thing you can find a lot of explanation and discussion about here. Try the ROTC forums, too.

And regarding MOC slate, their primary may not be 3Q’ed, may not accept, could get injured, etc. Lots of discussion about the fact that USNA is putting together a puzzle of pieces and can move people around to get the class they want. Plus the whole national pool thing! It’s not over for you until the TWE. To be the 1st alternative means MOC thinks very highly of you. Wonderful! But yes your point about the timing could make sense for the call.

Is your district competitive? Perhaps that is why MOC is more hands on at this point. Our congressman actually is very approachable and around a lot so DS has had the chance to interact with him more than I would have thought, perhaps that’s just how your MOC is. But I don’t see how your MOC would even be able to do any NROTC “recommendations” at this point as the application process is closed. All that can be done HAS been done at this point in the process.

Do you know if your MOC reaches out to everyone on their slate? Regardless, there is nothing that you can do now besides wait and see. Have a solid plan B, and know that MOC thought enough of you to reach out. You made an impression. So should it not work out this year, you have that connection as a feather in your cap for next year should you choose to apply!

We aren't super competitive (in Wisconsin) but this is one of those strange years. I talked to him after my interview when he "congratulated" me for being his #2 choice. He said that most years they have about 30 qualified applicants. This year they had about 45. Also, USNA was, by far, most people's first choice and in normal years it is more evenly spread out. And in most years I would have been the only Eagle Scout in his group but this year there were three. There were also several re-applicants this year. So it is just one of those years, I guess. He told me that any other year I would have likely been his first choice. I also interviewed with Senators but they work with Reps so as to not give double nominations.

I have talked to him a few times now but I didn't interview with him, of course. His committee made the nomination decision. But from talking to him I almost get the sense that he feels bad that I wasn't the #1 choice. I know that sounds arrogant for me to say that but just his almost apologetic tone makes me feel that way. He, himself, was Marine Corp officer for 7 years and served 2 deployments in Iraq. So he appreciates all who want to serve and he has been very encouraging. When he called me after my interview he did offer me USMMA but I don't want to simply take any appointment. My Scoutmaster also told me to apply for USAFA (he is class of '85) and USMA. But Naval service is my ultimate goal so I won't purse something that I'm not excited about.

We'll see happens. I would certainly accept USNA but in my mind I'm already onto my Plan B options which are Marquette, UW Madison, and V-Tech. All good schools with great NROTC units. I thought the same thing about him "recommending" me for NROTC. Nothing else can be done at this point, which is the strange thing about him saying that. As I think about this more it does seem to make sense that he found out that his #1 choice accepted so he is trying to help me reach my goals through NROTC. If that ends up happening I am fine with that. I would still intend to apply again next year.

Is this your only nom source? Do you happen to know how many of MOC's five slots are open? It sounds like he's been telegraphing to you all along the way that, as you are his #2, there's only so much he could do for you as far as USNA goes. It is curious that he'd call given the timing and all. So, it may be that he got the obligatory headsup from admissions about his slate winner, and he felt compelled to reach out to his #2. Hang in there. We'll all find out very soon, I gotta think.

Yes, only nom source. Our senators work with districts to coordinate and not offer double nominations...giving more people opportunities. He told me the first time we talked that he had one spot available at USNA. I didn't apply to USMMA before the deadline and, besides, I already told him that Naval service was my goal. I want to pursue Engineering as a focus and USMMA is more about logistics, maritime rules, supply chain/distribution, etc. Even commissioning into the USN after graduation I still would not get the education focus that I'm shooting for. It isn't just about free tuition for me. It is about life goals.

Your point is exactly what I was thinking too. His #1 choice accepted so he called me to offer whatever help he can. If that is true then I still have a shot through the national pool. I think there are something like 2,000 people in that pool competing for 200, or so, appointments. Or so I've heard. But I don't know how that process works at all. Do they just offer appointments from MOC's with open slots even if they are out of state/district? Either way, not much I can do about it now.

This process has been interesting for sure. I have met several people who have all had different experiences. One person I met was the first alternate two years in a row and didn't get in. Another person I know didn't get in his first try but reapplied the next year and got in as 3rd alternate...he was offered appointment in May. Nothing to do now but wait, pray, and prepare for all scenarios.

Is the National pool really that big?

It's pretty big. But I just called my MOC office back to clarify. My thoughts were correct. The primary nominee was offered appointment and accepted. So my only option is the national pool but my MOC told me that they have never had anyone from our district get in through the national pool so they suggested I move ahead with plan b at this point. A bit more bad news. I just heard today that my NROTC application was denied.

So now it seems my best option is to choose a school that I want, pay full tuition at first, try and join NROTC once I get there, do the best that I can, and re-apply to USNA next year. Of course I will wait for an official decision from USNA but that is where I need to focus my thoughts now. It's all about what I can control.