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Our family doctor when I was a kid gave my sisters theirs on the underside of the arm and mine on the outside. He told my mother that he did that for all female children. He also made house calls but they all did then.
 
Could someone please explain to us non-military parents how Captain Crozier and MCPON Russell Smith are NOT violating OPSEC??? They have publicly announced the weapons systems, the number of ill USN members, and the number of personnel who will remain on board the ship. Sounds like valuable info for America's enemies.
 
The letter that CAPT Crozier sent up the chain of command was not (officially) intended for public release. Someone leaked it to the media (and if Crozier was behind it, that would be a problem), but regardless, it's his job to raise the issues to his superiors if he thinks the current plan is putting his ship and crew at risk. I think his letter was outstanding.

I have a much bigger issue with MCPON speaking out in the media about what CAPT Crozier should or should not have done. Not his place, and certainly not in the media. If he has issues with the way the crew is being led, he should raise the issue to CNO.
 
@A6E Dad

"Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy Russell Smith said the captain should have first communicated with families through the command's ombudsman so panicked family members didn't read about the situation on the carrier in media reports." -Gina Harkins, Military.com

I agree. If the skipper's letter was to his chain of command and leaked to the media, he had no need or obligation to communicate with families at that time. The MCPON should have released a different statement as this one is out of his lane and not helpful at all to the situation.
 
www.nbcnews.com

Navy relieves captain who raised alarm about COVID-19 on ship

The Navy relieved the captain who sounded the alarm about an outbreak of COVID-19 aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
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WOW

there must be more to the story. the "letter" was technically a memo, i would assume he sent it to the 1 star commander of CSG, and it got routed up the chain from there. if it turns out that is was intentionally leaked by CVN71 to stir up the media, then it would be a different story
 
Loss of trust and confidence. That's the typical go-to reason these days.
They either are making a scapegoat out of him, or they have evidence that it was he who "leaked" the letter to the press.
No idea which one it is. Just conjecture right now. I'm watching right now as well.
 
He sent the letter to several addees at once when his boss was just down the P-way from him. Modley dragged him across the non-skid. Ugly
 
cant imagine this will have any positive impact on the TR crew right now

i've seen a series of emails from one of the squadron CO's detailing what they are going through, and suffice to say, it's a pretty rough situation and seriously challenging the leadership (as well as the whole crew obviously). the skipper getting relieved in the middle of this is only going to make it worse i think

update - he send his memo via email to 20-30 people ? probably not the best move
 
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He really gave them no choice. Not a smart play for an O-6.

SECNAV indeed "dragged him across the non-skid". Nice visual there, @Devil Doc.
 
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Couldn’t an option have been for the Navy to publicly thank him for bringing this to the front and that we will get right on this for the benefit of our fine sailors yada yada yada, and then tell the O6 that he should probably put in his retirement papers or some such option.
 
part of me feels like this skipper tried like hell to get his message across and was getting nowhere, and at the same time was seeing more and more of his crew getting infected, and saw absolutely no way to avoid total infection, and felt like if he didn't so something drastic then he was eventually going to have dead sailors and wouldn't have a good answer for those families. so, he did something that he shouldn't have done, which resulted in the actions that he felt needed to happen, but he sacrificed his career as a result.

total conjecture on my part, but maybe if the skipper didn't blast that message out like he did then maybe they wouldn't be taking the drastic measures that they are now taking (putting almost the entire crew in individual isolation in various locations in Guam for 2 weeks, etc, etc) and maybe lives were saved.
maybe the skipper will have a clear conscience when this is over.

then again, maybe all these things were going to happen anyway, and he panicked when he should have followed the CoC and done things by the book.

will probably make a good case study for Naval Leadership and Ethics classes in the future
 
I see your point, of course.
I would have followed the book, but I was only an O-3 captain, not an O-6 CAPT.
I had it a lot easier, I think. :)
 
A6E Dad said:
part of me feels like this skipper tried like hell to get his message across and was getting nowhere, and at the same time was seeing more and more of his crew getting infected, and saw absolutely no way to avoid total infection, and felt like if he didn't so something drastic then he was eventually going to have dead sailors and wouldn't have a good answer for those families. so, he did something that he shouldn't have done, which resulted in the actions that he felt needed to happen, but he sacrificed his career as a result.

total conjecture on my part, but maybe if the skipper didn't blast that message out like he did then maybe they wouldn't be taking the drastic measures that they are now taking (putting almost the entire crew in individual isolation in various locations in Guam for 2 weeks, etc, etc) and maybe lives were saved.
maybe the skipper will have a clear conscience when this is over.

then again, maybe all these things were going to happen anyway, and he panicked when he should have followed the CoC and done things by the book.

will probably make a good case study for Naval Leadership and Ethics classes in the future
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This sounds like a “movies based upon” events
 
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